Look no further than Cullen for that answer I think.

Is that what you took out of my reply????

I also think that people should read the [idetail[/i of the incident.

Again, what he did was very wrong and the club are right to sack him but I for one hopes he gets a chance to atone for his mistakes.

I think he'll build his confidence (Not sure where this fragile confidence thing comes from given his body language for the reserves, but anyhow), I think he'll build his confidence playing in a successful reserve side as oppose to becoming a massive target in NL1, where you'd imagine there'd be a few folk waiting to knock him about a bit.

I also think that the reserves will be made, maybe the wrong word 'made', the reserves will start to mimic the first team, and you'll get a situation where structures defensively, attacking moves etc are similar to the first team, so it'll be all part of his education, readying him for first team action and bridging the gap between the two.

He'll also currently be part of the most proffesional set up coaching wise he's had to date in his fledgling career, so i'm sure it'll benefit him being around this culture, training harder, pushing himself. I think we've covered before he lacks nothing in enthusiasm to do well for this club, why take him away from this enviornment, leave him be, let him be a sponge for a bit, the door is hardly slammed shut in his face, he's probably about one first team injury to a back away from featuring.

I don't really see what you stand to gain by sending Kev to NL1, a young forward yeah, get him some gametime, up against 'men', men who'll rough you up, big eye opener etc, sure, I get that. For Penny, I don't see the merit.

I just think we've got to be a little patient with Penny now. He was fast-tracked to our first team and made a massive impression. He was then blamed for alot of our problems, unfairly, and finds himself out of the first team. Smith since taking over has pretty much adopted a safety first approach, understandably so, given we were letting in 40 pts a week., you get your strongest defensive unit on the park, make yourself as solid as possible, and build on that, if you can reduce the number od points you opposition score, you'll give yourself a chance. I'm sure, given time, we'll become 'better to watch' or more fluent.

The one thing that gives me hope, is that TS has said openly, that he only wants players who are 100% commited to this club, so with that in mind, I know that Kevin has a massive future for us.

Who is it?

He did not hit a woman.

He was married to a man???

Are you thick?

Go and read the details.

I can only assume he has been fired by the club and there is a clause in his contract that lets us do this. This should mean we have his salary back on the cap.

With his departure and that of Gleeson I would expect Smith to bring someone else in soon.

I am not sure sacking him was the right thing. There are plenty of clubs with players who have the wrong sort of 'form'; two on display last night at the Piedome, who were not fired. The only similar thing I can remember was when Phil Ford was sold after getting lagered up and nicking Bob Eccles car. (showing my age again)

I still find it hilarious at the stick Kevin Penny still gets on here. I am sure under TS his career will flourish. He has a talent I have not seen for many years and I cant wait to see him in the first team again.

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*hovis music playing*

i know, it was about not getting the joke in the 1st place

Just read your sig,

The only details I have seen in the papers state that he grabbed her arm and bruised her. I don't see how this would get him a jail sentence, especially when you consider that the charge of forced entry (or whatever) was dropped due to the prosecution not providing evidence.

I don't think he will go to prison at all, but for the threat to be there in the first place, it seems that there may be a few more details to this.

Not actually sure if we are allowed to talk about it anyway, however only discussed things that are in the public domain anyway.

That is what I thought. One of the strangest contract renewals I can ever remember.

Your club must have a bit of money to spend on the SC now you have let 2 players go with reported big earners and only got mathers from us who wouldnt be on that much.

Great news. Would Wire be interested in taking Fielden off our hands too?

He used to be the best forward in the world, maybe Tony Smith could resurrect his career as well as Mathers?

Sorry, Tony doesn't work miracles he is only human.

*wonders if this thread will get bumped up in 2 years after we sign Fielden*

more like they have space under the cap now to pay the taxman

I was only joking.

Surely you wouldn't?

If you do, pay him a fiver a week, max!

hopefully so am i

Has it been 6 months since he last played?