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| Quote ="Ian [77"I'd agree but he doesn't want to be here any more (if he ever did) saintc - on that basis I can understand getting rid. He's a class centre and will be excellent for wigan but if he'd rather go we're better off without him.'"
I agree mate, If they dont want to play for you then get rid....but for Mathers???
When the deal was speculated to include Goulding I thought both sides had done well out of it but TBH I'd feel robbed now if I were a Wire fan.
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| He's scored no tries this year and assisted for about 2 if that.
His tries per game since 2005 works out at 0.4.
Since he joined he had one good year with him scoring and also creating tries for Henry in 2005.
That try he scored against Bradford last year was what he really can do but it hasn't happened enough for quite a while now. £100,000 and a player makes good sense than losing him for nothing in a years time.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"If you have the details of any high interest accounts can you let me know.'"
Isn't there certain accounts where if you have more than x amount, the interest immediately increases?
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| 5 Pound a month with Halifax if you pay in a grand a month. Bargain!
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| To be honest i'm not really bothered about Gleeson leaving. Us and Saints had the best years out of him and he seems to have lost what pace he had, and he doesn't seem to able to stand anyone up with his footwork anymore. Andrew Johns mentioned in his autobiography Gleeson was a carbon copy of Matt Gidley, after watching Gidley's performance today and for the last 2 seasons aswell as Gleeson's, i'm afraid there worlds apart. With Gleeson's salary now freed up aswell as Reardon's (maybe) we should be able to make a move for a world class back, Jamie Lyon would be nice.
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| Quote ="The Punisher"To be honest i'm not really bothered about Gleeson leaving. Us and Saints had the best years out of him and he seems to have lost what pace he had, and he doesn't seem to able to stand anyone up with his footwork anymore. Andrew Johns mentioned in his autobiography Gleeson was a carbon copy of Matt Gidley, after watching Gidley's performance today and for the last 2 seasons aswell as Gleeson's, i'm afraid there worlds apart. With Gleeson's salary now freed up aswell as Reardon's (maybe) we should be able to make a move for a world class back, Jamie Lyon would be nice.'"
Unfortunately, I thought that too...........
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| Quote ="lister"He's scored no tries this year and assisted for about 2 if that.
His tries per game since 2005 works out at 0.4.
Since he joined he had one good year with him scoring and also creating tries for Henry in 2005.
That try he scored against Bradford last year was what he really can do but it hasn't happened enough for quite a while now. :2kt7qs24 £100,000 and a player makes good sense than losing him for nothing in a years time.[/
This is the crux of the argument for me. We benefit far more than him walking at the end of the season for nowt. It makes perfect sense.
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| I think the rest of the team will play better without him anyway! Wigan must have had some room left on the salary cap??? for a change
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| Quote ="langer the king"I think the rest of the team will play better without him anyway! Wigan must have had some room left on the salary cap??? for a change'"
30k left on cap apparently
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| Quote ="langer the king"I think the rest of the team will play better without him anyway! Wigan must have had some room left on the salary cap??? for a change'"
As if the cap would ever stop them, small fine or small point deduction as always if broken by Wigan.
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| Quote ="slimwire66"30k left on cap apparently'"
Nowhere near enough...
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| Quote ="oli30045"Nowhere near enough...'"
It will be when Mathers is gone & someone/s goes to Salford on Loan!
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| Quote ="oli30045"Nowhere near enough...'"
How would anyone know they've got 30k left on their cap??
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| Plus add Mathers salary onto that at least
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| Can't say I'm overjoyed with this, he's a quality player and I'd rather we kept quality than let it go, but, he was set to leave at the end of the season anyway, and it seems Smith was only going to use him at 6 this year, or at least that was where he was using him, where I don't feel he's very effective.
Not a bad signing for Wigan, the minimum I expect is an improvement as his replacement; Jamie Lyon anyone?
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| Thanks for all the fish
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Can't say I'm overjoyed with this, he's a quality player and I'd rather we kept quality than let it go, but, he was set to leave at the end of the season anyway, and it seems Smith was only going to use him at 6 this year, or at least that was where he was using him, where I don't feel he's very effective.'"
How many games did he play at 6?
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"How many games did he play at 6?'"
Was it not every game he was fit he played 6?
I'll have a look through the reports now and have a nosey...
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| Good business I think. Clearly from day one he didn't have the passion and desire to play for us and that often showed and has done over the last year. He is apparently one of the more 'social' members of our squad and maybe this is Smith setting a marker down - 'buck up or go'. If he was to leave next year for nothing why not cash in on him now. I cannot see us getting rid without having a replacement lined up, maybe this is why the deal has dragged?? Smith might have been playing him at 6 so he could see what other options we have already in the team to play centre if he were to let Martin go.
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Was it not every game he was fit he played 6?
I'll have a look through the reports now and have a nosey...'"
2, out of 4 under Smith. But never full games.
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| Think its good deal, doesnt want to be here so best to get rid. Could of left at end of contract for nothing so 100k is good and mathers can hopefully be good under Smith.
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| can we keep all discussion in the one thread today please for this, any other threads will be locked and/or merged.
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| £100k in the transfer kitty (hopefully), a fair chunk off the salary cap, let the replacement speculation commence.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"£100k in the transfer kitty (hopefully), a fair chunk off the salary cap, let the replacement speculation commence.'"
Vinnie at centre as we have an abundance of back rowers all eager and able to play in the team this season any thoughts
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