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| Quote ="SEB"No. Why on earth would they do that? Gleeson's contract is between him and Warrington. If we decide we don't need him to honour it, we don't need to pay him his contract. Cancelled by mutual agreement. Why on earth would another club then have to pay anything to anyone?'"
I did hear a story of an overseas player a few years ago, he wanted to go back to the NRL so he asked his club to release him with a year to go on his contract. The club agreed. Next thing they get a demand from his agent asking for a "compensation settlement" of most of his final years contract!
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| Quote ="Bobby_Peru"From the Warrington Guardian article -
I take it we didn't take them up on this, hence the reason he went back to Leeds? I cannot remember.'"
From what I remember the fee had been agreed verbally between Plange and Gary Hetherington, but had not been written into the contract. Mathers then got offered a one year contract extension at Leeds which he signed, Plange was no longer our coach anyway, and the whole thing died a death, probably because Mathers didn't want to join us at that time!
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"I did hear a story of an overseas player a few years ago, he wanted to go back to the NRL so he asked his club to release him with a year to go on his contract. The club agreed. Next thing they get a demand from his agent asking for a "compensation settlement" of most of his final years contract!'"
I don't want to name names, but that sounds Kidwellesque.
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| unlikely to go smith picks him every time for GB never see mathers or goulding on it can't see why he would broker such a deal think he would sooner cash in imo
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| did get a message by text saying glee with nob and leno right now and that was at 3.30 pm today.
York 79 talking more pooh...
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Pretty much spot on, with one exception; how are Wigan better than us? .'"
They are.
You can talk about "on paper" and a host of other things but ultimately Wigan have achieved more in their most baron spell that Wire have. They have at least won some stuff, they have appeared in finals that they havent won, they have consistently finished higher in the league and been in more play offs.
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| Quote ="saintc"They are.
You can talk about "on paper" and a host of other things but ultimately Wigan have achieved more in their most baron spell that Wire have. They have at least won some stuff, they have appeared in finals that they havent won, they have consistently finished higher in the league and been in more play offs.'"
Who asked you.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"He may have a get out clause in the final year of his contract'"
Yeh the get out clause is another club coming up with a load of wonga to sign him!
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| Quote ="Bobby_Peru"Who asked you.'"
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| Quote ="York79"did get a message by text saying glee with nob and leno right now and that was at 3.30 pm today.
York 79 talking more pooh...'"
No not York 79 talking more pooh......whoever sent York 79 text talking more pooh.
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| Quote ="Herb Narvo"No not York 79 talking more pooh......whoever sent York 79 text talking more pooh.'"
No mate. Impossible I'm afraid.
York 79 talking more pooh...
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| I think deal all round to be honest.....
Gleeson, just by his body language, seems to want to be as far from Warrington as possible, though I'm not entirely sure why Wigan would please him so much, considering he has always stated his desire to play down under....Purely for this reason, I'd offload him, an unhappy player, especially a good one, can be detrimental to a changing room.
Also, you have to realise the present situation at Wire....we have a new manager who undoubtedly will be looking to stamp his own mark on the club....bringing in Mathers, Goulding and a bit of cash, gives him leeway to do this.
Those doubting Mathers and Goulding should just allow Smith to do his job, and leave the judgement for a couple of years to see how it pans out....Remember, all those 'great' signings of Cullen's over the years were heralded with a fanfare, which usually turned out to be a damp squib.
Its funny hardly anybody sees the Mathers signing as a common sense one??....It's highly likely we'll be short of full back very soon, so bringing in a proven one seems a good idea to me.
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| i hope not, he gets alot of criticism but theres not many better then him when he is on top form at CENTER
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| I just watched my recording of boots n all, I never realised that Gleeson may actually leave in return for cash plus mathers and goulding, I thought that it was someone making crap up.
How does this actually benefit us?????
Get rid of our star player for some average players?
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"I think deal all round to be honest.....
Gleeson, just by his body language, seems to want to be as far from Warrington as possible, though I'm not entirely sure why Wigan would please him so much, considering he has always stated his desire to play down under....Purely for this reason, I'd offload him, an unhappy player, especially a good one, can be detrimental to a changing room.
Also, you have to realise the present situation at Wire....we have a new manager who undoubtedly will be looking to stamp his own mark on the club....bringing in Mathers, Goulding and a bit of cash, gives him leeway to do this.
Those doubting Mathers and Goulding should just allow Smith to do his job, and leave the judgement for a couple of years to see how it pans out....Remember, all those 'great' signings of Cullen's over the years were heralded with a fanfare, which usually turned out to be a damp squib.
Its funny hardly anybody sees the Mathers signing as a common sense one??....It's highly likely we'll be short of full back very soon, so bringing in a proven one seems a good idea to me.'"
I can see where you're coming from, and Smith's record at Leeds would suggest he's hardly going to be 'duped' into a bad deal from his side.
I, like many other Wigan fans were pleased when we signed Mathers, but his defence at times is atrocious. More so than his ability, his body language and seeming lack of desire frustrates me, and we certainly have seen nothing like the form we know he's capable of from his days at Leeds.
If the rumours of Gleeson wanting out are true, it may well prove to be an intelligent bit of business for both teams, acquiring a player in position they need to strengthen, while attempting to harmonise the dressing room a bit.
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| Ive said this elsewhere. I back TS on this. Free up cap space, cover for full back where we may be lacking shortly and a good youth player (if those are the terms.)
On paper it doesnt look great but it does make sense as hes going anyway. Look at the bigger picture.
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| Quote ="mark_m"I assume Smith is thinking back to when he worked with Mathers at Leeds. I am going to trust his judgment.'"
why would we sign an injured player???
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| Quote ="slimwire66"why would we sign an injured player???'" We dont sign injured players, we sign players with bad injury records...
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| Quote ="slimwire66"why would we sign an injured player???'"
Hasn't stopped us before.
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| To be honest guys, as much as Id like to sign Gleeson to play in our centres, Im not sure how we are going to do it.
As far as I know, Goulding and Mathers are the players involved? But Mathers is terrible and Goulding is one who the backroom staff at our place want to keep hold off, so Im not sure whats going to happen.
But like me, your probably getting bored of this situation now and want some sort of concrete end to it.
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| If it's to happen, today will be the day IMO.
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