Wasnt it 4 drop goals? then we got beat??

proves my point exactly. legend.

No point living in the past though

You're only as good as your last game

Everyones been posting at how 'Awesome' he was yesterday, he was nothing more than average IMO however it was his best game of the season, doesnt really say much about his previous matches though

How?? Great servant yes, legend..no.

Cant remember his name, but didnt a player for workington score 4 drop goals again us at Wilderspool in '95, think we got beat 16-14...he must be a legend too then........

I think if Smith can find a way to challenge & motivate Lee Briers, then he still has a lot to offer this club. Whilst at the same time, Smith can develop areas of his game, defensive options that he takes etc, then we might yet still be to see the best of Lee Briers. Sean Long isn't the same lethal finisher that he was 5 years ago, and there was a time when his form dipped, it looked like he may leave Saints, even come to us. What Saints managed to do was sell a different role to him within the team, for him to change his game and he's thrived as has the likes of Pryce and Long has arguably in terms of all round game produced his best stuff, just not perhaps his best individual stuff, which was perhaps when the legs had a yard more pace.

I think the same could be for Briers, physically, he won't be as quick as he was in 2000/2001 doing that Nikau runaround, and dancing through, but in terms of the cliched 'first yard in your head', he's still better than most. I reckon we could get a better team orientated Briers than ever before, guidance, leadership, kicking game etc if he wants it. The fact that Smith made a fuss of him post match, suggests that he's indicated in some way that he's willing to put the work in.

The thing that Smith evidently wants, is for you to do your shift in training, look after yourself, do the right things, eat, sleep, drink etc. If Briers wants to extend his career, and have an Indian summer like Long has done for the last 2-3 years, he's very capable, it's kinda the ball in his court so to speak.

Paul Bishop once kicked 5 drop goals in a Cup semi at Wigan, and we won that match....Bish the legend, anyone??...

...Well, 2 can play the old drop goals game...

it once said on wikipedia that briers had a wooden leg AND turned up to training on a tractor now i don't really know what else you doubters want from the guy he is a legend end of story anyone who doesn't think he is a legend doesn't get a say in whether he is a legend or not

the draw at wilderspool against wigan, last kick of the game briers rescued a point i think it was 17-17. he came up trumps then

aye. he'd missed about 3 goal kicks prior to that though.

sorry, i forgot that detail, you just reminded me

i've got it written on the tape, wire wigan draw, briers can't kick.

i do that on quite a lot of tapes from the last ten years.

wolves of warrington v horses of london (crap)

wire v cas midweek (crap)

cas v wire(crap after midweek game)

wigan v wire 01 (opening night brawl)

bulls v wire 97(opening night massacre)


and so on.

Rauhihi Day ?

Gleeson Day vs Wire at HJ ?

etc ...

what was the game against wigan were toa was taking heads off ended up in a scrap with i think o'conner
our fans were awesome that night i lost my voice

the whole game 'van de veldes barmy army'.

We were relentless that game [fans i was full of pride as i took my mate for the 1st time to a rugby game
After the match (we got beat) i told him thats why i support wire because no matter what s--- people throw at us we will always have the greatest supporters

What is the title of that game TC ?

Having considered this over the past fifteen minutes, I have concluded teh following:

Having started this season like the proverbial bag of e, Briers has been encompassed in the general melee of our crapness. This generally goes against the grain of despite how turd we were playing, he always had a play in him to turn a game around (MM game against Huddersfield off the top of my head). As I said, the fact he hasn't pulled a game around has seen his stock fall, considerably. A victim of his own ability, if you will.

opening night brawl in 01? toa got sent off for hitting renouf high(allegedly) twice in quick succession, then nikau went crazy ape bonkers and got sent off, and a zillion behavioural letters got sent out.

The fans were awesome though one of the best atmosphere i have ever experienced pity we lost

A victim of his own inability to do anything more than sporadically influence games. I'm not ignoring his ability to break games from time to time, but top quality playmakers take hold of games and dictate them week in week out, Briers has never done that, he's always been a player who can come up with the odd good play and the odd good game. If he had been Australian he would have pottered around first grade for a few seasons then come over to England, the only reason he was so highly rated over here is because of the lack of decent halfbacks and stand offs, which meant in the context of what we had, Briers was one of the better options around.

The frustrating part is he obviously had the raw materials to be top quality, he could kick, pass and step, there was just something missing, which is why a succession of international coaches overlooked him and he never got signed by a top club.

Im going to make a dramatic U turn and get behind Lee Briers

He's still got a bit of Magic left in him

What has really grated at me is that he looks happy in his own little comfort zone. You sort of get the impression that if he truly commited himself to training and bought into the professional ethos, he could've been so much better.
Briers has always struck me as the last of the part-time, pub generation in the first of the full-time, Sport Science generation. If he'd been playing in the 80s, we'd be sat here now, I feel, lauding him as good as Gregory, but he seemed content going for his 'crafty cig' while the rest of the team were being flogged in the gym, which is an attitude I feel has let him down during his career.

I'm not aware of any player who dictated play week in, week out. Even Andrew Johns, by his own admission had some really bad games.

You can't blame Briers for being the only ball playing half back of his generation, but I do agree he could have been far more had he given that extra 10% in training.

on his day briers can mix it with the best,but only on his day which to be honest are not enough.as for him being a legend..no sorry cant agree with that....now if briers plays the rest of the season like sundays game i and many others will give him the applause he deserves.....

No he isn't because we have underachieved in all the time he has been at the club (not his fault admittedly). Although if we can by some miracle win something before he leaves the club that status will certainly change to 'legend'. Challenge Cup this year perhaps?

That was a brilliant night. I remember after that it took years for a wire/wigan match to be shown on sky again as Eddie & Stevo spent most of the match apologising to viewers as we belter seven shades out of the pies! Sibbet scoring in the corner after about 45 seconds and us going wild thinking we were going to win the league..

That season we were battling most games iirc and beat all the top 4/5 teams at wilderspool in an Alfie inspired whirlwind of attacking Rugby, great times! Even Alan Hunte looked good.

Also the team spirit that year was immense.