Not read all of this thread but I feel Penny has been made a scapegoat for King's performance. I would now like to see Johnson in the centre with King on the wing.

I know some people have different views on what the effects of being dropped are, I think Kev will be frustrated not only because he's been dropped, but because King hasn't, too.

I'm not sure how this will effect Kev, he's a confident lad, so I hope this spurs him on to force his way back in. He doesn't seem the type who will dwell on this and feel sorry for himself.

It seemed to work well for him last year, his performances picked up after a spell out of the team.

i can see this being the team

1. riley
2. hicks
3. gleeson
4. bridge
5. king
6. briers
7. monaghan
8. morley
9. higham
10. carvell
11. l.anderson
12. westwood
13. v.anderson

14. johnson
15. wood
16. rauhihi
18. harrison

as chris bridge played left centre for the reserves i think they will try him out there saturday, would be a gud idea, weve tried him in evry other position but i think vinnie anderson should play centre and bridge should play loose forward

i reckon send penny to aussie for a year for some game time in one of the local comps around illawarra or sydney...the standard is close to national league and it won't be so much of a knock to his confidence being farmed out to eg leigh

he's got the raw ingredients to make a top player and i reckon for sure he would come back ready for superleague in a big way, last thing we want to do is waste his potential and i don't think its going anywhere being on fringe of first team/in 21s week in week out...send him to the team leikvoll's playing for he'll come back a star peacock went to team in same league look at him now

So where does Jon Clarke fit in?

loose forward, When Vinnie has his next sore throat, knee twinge, groin strain, bad back or Runny ar$e....

This one, la?

nicely done.

Looking at the way Kev Penny has been trying to improve i think dropping him from the squad altogether must feel like a kick in the nuts to him..

But as someone else said King has nowhere to hide on Saturday...

No, it's one or all of Penny, King, Anderson the L and Monaghan.

That whole left side is suspect and needs something to shake it up. Martin Gleeson would be my choice

Based on last week, Penny is wasted in the team anyway.

His strength is his blistering pace, yet in the 2nd half of last year we never looked like using him, so why bother anyway? We can use Johnson or King on the wing as a battering ram for the hard yards, but don't expect any flair, as we wouldn't play that way anyway.

Very disappointed with the way Lowes seems to publically show Penny up. He could easily have had him as 18th man and gone with the fact that he just missed out because Gleeson returned to keep his confidence up and help him save face.

Johnson was also poor last week let's not forget. He got skinned by Gilmour, and he blew an easy try by not passing with Hicks unmarked.

Anyway, let's see what happens, I'm past caring who is in the team, let's just start winning games...

that picture is even funnier second time around.

Will King get booed when his name's read out?

As is every Rugby League team in the world

It wouldn't surprise me.

Isn't it just ! I'm so glad I brought it up and the picture returned. Can we not have that as the site banner ?

Aye we should do, then replace it's head with Kevin Penny's.

Exactly.

'Down To The Wire'

An unofficial voice of Warrington Wolves

Kevin Penny - official escape goat of the Warrington Wolves.

Probably.

i'm sure that will help things too.

Sounds about right pal.

Not surprised in the slightest - Lowes has hinted many times he doesn't rate Penny.

Personally, I'm gutted. All this guff being spouted about sending him off to NL1 to improve his game!! He's a far better all round player than he was when he was running in tries for fun in his first few games. The difference since is quite simple - he get's no support in defence and little or no running opportunities with the ball.

I hope all the "supporters" who've slated him are quite happy now. Look at our backline, we've little or no pace as it is, we'll be even less a threat on Saturday. A potential 3/4 line of Hicks, Gleeson, King and Johnson won't exactly have Catalans quivering over their coffee, croissant and vegemite on Saturday morning.

I couldn't agree more.

Exactly what I was going to say...

Good job Catalan are looking to be light in the forwards. Something we might win on the pitch on saturday.