You can't really compare their stats in this way because they're completely different types of players despite both being number 9s. Roby will always make more metres than Monas because he plays for 80 minutes and mostly runs from dummy half. Monas is almost an extra halfback with his distribution and kicking game. As for him not having as many try assists, most of our tries are scored out wide a couple of passes later, but Monas is always heavily involved.

I'm not saying Roby isn't a fantastic player - he is - but I don't think he's that much better than Monas. In fact, I'd much rather have Monas in our team because his style of play suits the team more than Roby's would.

Monas has led his team to the top of the league with alot of injuries. Roby has ran lot's from dummy half and done alot of tackling and knackered his eye up. Nuff said.

1. Tomkins
2. J. Monas
3. Carmont
4. Yeaman
5. King
6. Chase
7. Dureau
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Carvell
11. Hoffman
12. Westwood
13. Lokkers

How is that "nuff said"? Woeful summary of two great players.

Comparing Monas to Roby is a bit like comparing Megan Fox to Heather from EastEnders.

I'm sure that's what he said, Remind me i can't remember the last time Roby had a good game or won a game for you.

Are you a secret Wire fan by any chance?

tomkins

king
bridge
carmont
richards
briers
chase

graham
m monaghan
morley
westwood
O'Loughlin
Grix

Sorry pal. Don't get much time in work. Maybe you could lend me some of your legendary wisdom? You know, like saying Sam Tomkins is better than DallyM winner Billy Slater.

Classic.

Tomkins
Foster
Atkins
Carmont
Hall
Chase
Dureau
Graham
Roby
Carvell
Wilkin
Westwood
O'Loughlin

This would be mine

1. Tomkins
2. J. Monaghan
3. Carmont
4. Yeaman
5. King
6. Chase
7. Dureau
8. Graham
9. M.Monaghan (better than roby despite what the stats say)
10. Mossop
11. Hoffman
12. Manu
13. O'Loughlin

1. Wellens
2. Makinson
3. Gleeson (M)
4. Carmont
5. Charnley
6. Gaskell
7. Eastmond
8. Prescott
9. Mickey Mac
10. Cross
11. Hansen
12. Hock
13. Moore

At this moment in time, it's got to be Monaghan over Roby. Although Roby's stats are immense this year, Monaghan has led his team to more victories by controlling the play; whereas Roby has been more of a workhorse because the rest of his team are gash.

I'd take either at Wigan though.

When does the Dream Team get announced?
Mine would be:-

Tomkins
Brisco
King
Carmont
Charnley
Briers (kills me to say but imo the best 6 this year)
Dureau
Graham
Roby
Mossop
Hoffman
Westwood
O'Loughlin

You're laughing at someone picking Wilkin when a fellow fan a few posts further up picked Grix?

I think that's a fair summary..... I cant believe I've just agreed with you..... think i will go for a lie down for 5 mins.

1.Tomkins
2. King
3. Carmont
4. Yeamen
5. Briscoe
6.Chase/Briers
7.Dereau
8. Graham
9. Monaghan
10. Carvell
11. Manu
12. Westwood/Hoffman( Injury could have affected his place)
13. O'Loughlin

That'd be mine, 2 of those 3 backrowers in I'd imagine. Also not sure on Dureau, he's oozed class and all but I still think Brough might get a shout.

I'm not a wire fan, i just think wilkin is rubbish

I know there's a danger that this may be a slightly biased viewpoint but for me, Myler has had a much for consistant season than Brough who is either sensational or turd.

Whilst he might not be 'dreamteam' material I guess this year, at his current rate of development he will be before long.

Fantastic choices, get yourself down to the bookies and ask for a price for that!!

i'd have monaghan over roby every time. stains fans just seem to think a scooter hooker is the be all and end all. his metres gained/tackles made is irrelevant, you shut roby down and you shut st helens down quite easily. give me a quality passer like monaghan who can direct traffic any day of the week

Just had a look at the stats for Saints and Warrington.

Roby has made 5000m exactly and saints have made 37970 which equates to 13% of the teams total metres.
Monaghan has made 2421 out of the 37262 which Warrington have made. This is 6%, having played for game less.

Having a match day squad of 17, you would expect very very roughly that 100/17 = 5.88% metres each player.

Ok some positions lend themselves to making more metres. To me these stats say that Roby is doing 2 peoples jobs as the rest of the team are not doing theres. There is an over reliance on Roby at St Helens where as Warrington work is shared amongst a team.....

Add in James Graham who made 3771 which is 9.93% of Saints total metres. nearly a quater of all Saints metres are made by two players!

Warrington highest metre maker is Paul Wood who has made 7% of our total metres. Which is about right when you consider 5.88% average for each player.

The work is definitely shared at Warrington.