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| 1 simple way for us to blow Saintc out of the water with this argument??
Let's all remember Paul Wellens and Ade Gardener at the last World Cup... ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"1 simple way for us to blow Saintc out of the water with this argument??
Let's all remember Paul Wellens and Ade Gardener at the last World Cup...
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And Pryce...
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| Its a poor argument because it says only about those players performances in that tournament rather than how good they are over-all.
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| Quote ="saintc"Its a poor argument because it says only about those players performances in that tournament rather than how good they are over-all.'"
Tournament or not they failed miserably when up against the very best i think its a decent argument TBH...Pryce,Wellens and Gardner didn't have a single good game in the world cup...
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| Quote ="MikeyWire"Tournament or not they failed miserably when up against the very best i think its a decent argument TBH......Pryce,Wellens and Gardner didn't have a single good game in the world cup...'"
Conversely, Morley and Peacock (although not poor like the three you named) hardly set the world alight either. We know they are better than that and I'd argue that so too are the three players you named that were rank bad.
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| Quote ="saintc"nah, I didnt.
might be a bit of that but I also think that we over-rate the NRL players as well.
Matt King - Enough said.
Wasnt Monoghan(sp) in the dream team over there before coming here?
Rauhihi - Been better this last season and a bit but not the so called world class prop from the NRL by any stretch.
Chris Flannery - Featured in the so called toughest contest in the SOO and yet (bar last night) has been average at best and IMHO is no better than Paul Clough.
Wasnt Ben Harris highly rated in the NRL and yet a pile of toss here?
Tony Carroll anyone?'"
Arent you meant to be after him?
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| Quote ="The Jigga Jigga"Arent you meant to be after him?'"
your gonna laugh now but I'd take him. I just know that if we signed him he'd start playing ace and it would be funny as .....
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| Quote ="saintc"Conversely, Morley and Peacock (although not poor like the three you named) hardly set the world alight either. We know they are better than that and I'd argue that so too are the three players you named that were rank bad.'"
Wellens(Hemmings love child) was absolutely awful and you'd be foolish to argue otherwise...
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| Quote ="MikeyWire"Wellens(Hemmings love child) was absolutely awful and you'd be foolish to argue otherwise...'"
It would be more foolish to think I was arguing otherwise when Im not. I suggest you read my post again.
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"1 simple way for us to blow Saintc out of the water with this argument??
Let's all remember Paul Wellens and Ade Gardener at the last World Cup...
'" The sad truth is though as poor as they were - and many others went - they were the best we had. So laugh as much as you like if you think the poor state of our national team is something worth laughing at. Its a shame we are in a position where the bulk of the players have to come from 2 teams because the others aren't good enough to provide any real competition for places.
And as for the Saints Leeds game - fantastic game from a Saints POV. I wasn't impressed with the way Bailey played but haven't watched it back yet so perhaps it was just getting caught in the emotion of the game that made it seem worse. There again, I said at the time I was shocked Gilmour didn't get sin binned.
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| all the young talent is being poached and converted by union purely because the international set up is more attractive
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| Quote ="the original stevo"what a tastey game'"
Great game. The two best teams in the League served up a cracker. No love lost me think though between the two teams lol.
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| You Wire fans must have watched in envy wishing you could beat Leeds
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| Quote ="Saint from Prestwich"You Wire fans must have watched in envy wishing you could beat Leeds'" Bet you wish you could beat them at Old Trafford.
We know we are crap.
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| Was that before or after maureen got knocked out think my friendsumed it up best like a scene in a film called friday YOU GOT KNOCKED THE F??? OUT
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| Quote ="gateaux"The sad truth is though as poor as they were - and many others went - they were the best we had. So laugh as much as you like if you think the poor state of our national team is something worth laughing at. Its a shame we are in a position where the bulk of the players have to come from 2 teams because the others aren't good enough to provide any real competition for places.
And as for the Saints Leeds game - fantastic game from a Saints POV. I wasn't impressed with the way Bailey played but haven't watched it back yet so perhaps it was just getting caught in the emotion of the game that made it seem worse. There again, I said at the time I was shocked Gilmour didn't get sin binned.'"
Thank You....At last a Saints fan who actually realises I wasn't slating Saints, but the British game, and the idiots on Sky who build up our 'World-class' stars, even though they are nothing of the sort....
Not once have I suggested that Saints (or Leeds) are poor sides...What I am suggesting is that once more we have a situation building where Eddie & Stevo are gradually building us all up to believe that our national side is packed with superb players.
May I refer you back to my first post in this thread, where I actually acknowledge last night's match as being a good one.... ![Cool icon_cool.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_cool.gif)
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| Quote ="MikeyWire"Wellens(Hemmings love child) was absolutely awful and you'd be foolish to argue otherwise...'"
And got Man of the Match last night in the best superleague match so far this season.
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| Quote ="Saint from Prestwich"You Wire fans must have watched in envy wishing you could beat Leeds'"
We've got a decent record against Leeds in recent games...
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| Did anyone else notice after Fatterthanyou got knocked out Cunnigham and Bailey were arguing, Anyone that is good at lip reading would have saw what Bailey said to Cunngham
To be clean it was Shut Up You Fat =redDON'T BYPASS THE SWEAR FILTER
Also, were the saints Fans singing 'Eddie, whats the score' half way throught the second half, like we used to sing for Stevo
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| Quote ="Judder Man"And got Man of the Match last night in the best superleague match so far this season.'"
No, he didn't.
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| Quote ="cheeseywire999"Was that before or after maureen got knocked out think my friendsumed it up best like a scene in a film called friday YOU GOT KNOCKED THE F??? OUT'"
The longest yard ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Dave T"
We know we are crap.'"
Only after 20 minutes. Thats normally when the booing starts isnt it?
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| Quote ="ST STEPHEN"Only after 20 minutes. Thats normally when the booing starts isnt it?'"
No. We boo 'um onto the pitch.
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