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| Quote ="Saddened!"Seems more of a common sense move than a brave move. You've proven that spending marquee money on halfbacks is not the way to go and Thewlis should be nailing the fullback spot this year, nevermind next. Dean too, difficult to see how you drop him after that performance against Huddersfield and if he repeats that surely what you suggest happens?'"
Honestly my assumption has been he would try and bring Trueman over.
Ratchford has struggled at half back in the past and Dean is only 3/4 games in to his career, so yes I think it would be brave.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Honestly my assumption has been he would try and bring Trueman over.
Ratchford has struggled at half back in the past and Dean is only 3/4 games in to his career, so yes I think it would be brave.'"
Trueman is off to Hull allegedly.
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| I'd be surprised if Charnley is here next year. I think the players leaving will be, Charnley, Hughes, Widdop, Butler, J.Clark and a few others.
More than enough cap space to sort our weak points out. I'm a big fan of Olly Holmes but he's definately off the boil, but he missed some pre-season and with suspensions needs a bit of time. He's MUCH better than he's shown us so far.
Harrison looks to be 3-4 weeks off maybe making his debut. Hoping he does well but no pressure on him at all as it will be awhile until he gets form and full fitness.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Be interesting to see what Powell decides. The brave move could be to not replace Widdop and use Ratchford at half to transition Dean to the role as 2023 progresses. Thewlis full back full time.
Widdop money to spend big on a prop.
Hughes and Clark money to bring in someone capable of covering Back Row / Loose position from the bench rotating with Magoulias if he stays. Tanginoa has been mentioned, seemed great when he joined Wakey but seems a little quieter recently playing predominantly prop I think so not sure what’s happened there.
Mulhern & Cooper out of contract, both worth of a spot in 2023 I think if we can bring in a significant prop signing.
Whitehead, Burgess & Gannon to hopefully kick on and provide support for injuries.
Holmes will come good I think, already an upgrade on Hughes and I’m not sure Longstaff is ready to take the role full time.'"
I agree that Ratchford could be retained, if he is realistic about his contract value.
The young guns coming into out team, will demand salaries considerably more than the buttons that they are currently being paid, as they sign their next contracts.
Hence they will consume some of the Salary Cap, that is being released by the players leaving.
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| Ashton needs longer boot studs.
He has done too much slipping these last 2 games.
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| Why on earth does Ashton get so much criticism?
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| Quote ="Douglas Black"Why on earth does Ashton get so much criticism?'"
No idea, he gets targeted and makes no more mistakes than anyone else really. There is a lot of improvement in him as well.
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| He makes very few mistakes.
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| Quote ="Douglas Black"He makes very few mistakes.'"
He makes hardly any, you're right. But having a centre inside you who can't tackle won't help him. Warrington fans won't blame king though, he's an international and Ashton is just a youngster. If I was Connor wrench, I'd look for a new club. If I had his talent and looked at the jokers getting picked ahead of me, then whats the point of staying?
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| Jason Clark made 20 metres all game. Disgraceful. He’s a good bloke though apparantley.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Jason Clark made 20 metres all game. Disgraceful. He’s a good bloke though apparantley.'"
No go forward what so ever.
Mind you neither have Currie or Holmes.
Just signing one prop forward is not going to alter this crap.
We need a Murdoch Masilla type backrow to compliment either Currie OR Holmes, we can`t play those two long term, they are too similar.
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| Ashton needs longer studs in his boots. I reckon he’s slipped around 4 times over that last 2 games.
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| I can’t see any small improvement you talk about. The pack is mickey poor and I don’t see any small improvements making any significant ground to be remotely competitive with our neighbours anyhow. The whole lot bar Cooper simply are bang average at best.
However I hear we will go for a quick fix next season sniffing at Kassiano and Dudson.
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| Our problems are more than just a prop.
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| A lightweight front row is not helped by a very lightweight second row. We need a beast of a second row as well. Tanginoa is a good target or maybe Matautia could persuade his brother to come and join us for a bit when his contract expires at the end of this season.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"A lightweight front row is not helped by a very lightweight second row. We need a beast of a second row as well. Tanginoa is a good target or maybe Matautia could persuade his brother to come and join us for a bit when his contract expires at the end of this season.'"
Posted similarly earlier.
I didn`t know that Matautia`s brother was only on a one year deal, but if Saints want to keep him, he will probably stay there.
All for having siblings in the team though, it creates unity especially when the chips are down,
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Posted similarly earlier.
I didn`t know that Matautia`s brother was only on a one year deal, but if Saints want to keep him, he will probably stay there.
All for having siblings in the team though, it creates unity especially when the chips are down,'"
With Woolf leaving at the end of the year his brother would be an ideal signing, but i can't see Powell Signing Holmes to not play him in the second row?
For me we have to drop under performing players but powell seems reluctant to, like the old school we've payed alot of money for them so have to play them kind of thing. At the moment i would drop the following and replace them with other players.
Toby King out Connor wrench in.
Philbin out and Rob Butler in.
Holmes out And Longstaff in.
It won't happen but needs to, i like Powell but not dropping players like these is unacceptable.
Billy Magoulias played well for me, made an error but plenty of effort and is trying things like his chip kick
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Jason Clark made 20 metres all game. Disgraceful. He’s a good bloke though apparantley.'"
He does the things you don't see, remember.
20 metres is atrocious.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Ashton needs longer studs in his boots. I reckon he’s slipped around 4 times over that last 2 games.'"
Well I suppose it makes a change from you banging on about needing new props, but honestly how you can criticise the footwear choice of one of the least blameworthy players in the team, given the much larger issues, is a mystery to me.
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| Ashton slipping was a major contributor to one of the early left edge tries to be fair. We do seem to be slipping a little too often IMO.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Well I suppose it makes a change from you banging on about needing new props, but honestly how you can criticise the footwear choice of one of the least blameworthy players in the team, given the much larger issues, is a mystery to me.'"
Why you get sucked in to replying to my posts when there are larger issues is another…!
A great oak has many branches, many are just little twigs, but collectively every bit makes a great oak.
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| Quote ="CW8"Ashton slipping was a major contributor to one of the early left edge tries to be fair. We do seem to be slipping a little too often IMO.'"
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Why you get sucked in to replying to my posts when there are larger issues is another…!
A great oak has many branches, many are just little twigs, but collectively every bit makes a great oak.'"
I assumed replying was sort of the point, but had I known I was dealing with Confucius (or even Yoda) I might have been more circumspect.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"I assumed replying was sort of the point, but had I known I was dealing with Confucius (or even Yoda) I might have been more circumspect.'"
Quote from Mark Twain:-
Never argue with an idiot, they will only drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"I assumed replying was sort of the point, but had I known I was dealing with Confucius (or even Yoda) I might have been more circumspect.'"
I actually had visions of you as David Carradine trying to leave the temple with rubber duckie as Master Kan
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