Like who? The club have been pretty tough on individuals in recent memory, one of the last being shown the door was Stuart Reardon for his behaviour off the field.

I hope not, read twitter and 90% of them are addicted to Costa. Nando's too but I cant see flavoured chicken being a performance enhancer.

I can remember a quote from him from years ago which went along the lines of they have done bad, been punished, now we move on. I cant remember the details of what that was about but Bailey and Senior were done for performance enhancing drugs under Smith's reign and were welcomed back.

What players have been shown the door at Wire for any form of offence ?

Reardon, Henare ?

phil Berry, drugs

Perhaps we can add to Yed's lists with a smacked off your tits 13

Gleason. I think he was part of enforcing a change of attitude in all players. Smith fixed an engrained attitude at Warrington that had been there for a long time. He has been tougher than what I think he would have been otherwise because of that.

I personally don't think he should be allowed to train for manY reasons, the main one being.... HE WAS BANNED FOR TWO YEARS!

HE hasn't served his punishment yet. Bottom line.

We could argue whether the punishment was too strict. I personally think it was too light. No one forced him to take cocaine. He knew what he was doing and should have been banned for life.

I'm struggling to see how I have managed to live my life not snorting cocaine and Hock hasn't and yet he should be given leniency. Not only is it madness, it is quite offensive.

He had a great talent and wasted it. However, if we put away the strange view that he should be let off.

It is an illegal substance- should be banned for that
It IS performance enhancing- should be banned
Could be used to mask something else- should be banned
It can (and does) kill thousands of people in Britain a year- should be banned.

If he plays rugby again it is too soon. Never mind the metaphorical slap on the wrist he got with the 2 years. He should be banned till the second he was banned two years ago.

What about caught for possession but no failed test, same rules apply?

That's a good question.

If they haven't failed a drugs test (taken drugs) I suppose there should be some leniency but still a hefty ban and rugby community service against drugs.

It's a criminal offence, leave it to the appropriate authorities to deal with.

cocaine does not kill thousands of people in this country, where are you getting your facts from?

I apologize. I went to far with a year.
Although Illegal drugs do kill thousands of people a year.

wrong again!

alcohol related deaths 60-80,000
tobacco 100,000
all illegal drugs 250-300
per year

It kills people who grow and sell it though slim

grow coca leaves in this country? nah yed not having it, plus guns and knives kill not cocaine! just a thought.

i do however on a serious note agree drug related crime is a serious problem in this country.

drugs are bad m'kay

Quote ="SLIMply the best"wrong again! alcohol related deaths 60-80,000 tobacco 100,000 all illegal drugs 250-300 per year'" As a trained medical professional, you should know they are well over 2000 deaths a year. (Thousands) and are growing at between 10 and 20% each year. A simple Google search would suffice. www.sgul.ac.uk/media/latest-news ... ue-to-rise But you are right. Drug crime is nasty in the UK and is a cause of gang violence that not only kills and injuries drug pushers and users but also innocent individuals.

Quote ="SLIMply the best"wrong again! alcohol related deaths 60-80,000 tobacco 100,000 all illegal drugs 250-300 per year'" As a trained medical professional, you should know they are well over 2000 deaths a year. (Thousands) and are growing at between 10 and 20% each year. A simple Google search would suffice. www.sgul.ac.uk/media/latest-news ... ue-to-rise But you are right. Drug crime is nasty in the UK and is a cause of gang violence that not only kills and injuries drug pushers and users but also innocent individuals.

I remember the Leah Betts story in the paper and her dad(bless him) going round schools teaching the dangers/evils of ecstasy.

Now i'm no defender of drugs but it was just plain lies, the amount of deaths from actually taking ecstasy are in the single figures every year + the deaths are usually a result of either dehydration or hyponatremia not the drug itself.

maybe gaz hock should be made to go and do some voluntary work in colombia where the west's appetite for cocaine causes all manner of problems, from the hundreds of gallons of gasoline that run into the rivers from processing factories to the fuelling of a bloody civil war and to the destruction of subsistence farming by the US army's spraying of herbicides

but in the name of those without sin not casting the first stone i highly doubt that the white stuff has not lined the noses of warrington players, and people writing on this forum too, so i say let him back training as long as he does something good in terms of raising awareness about not taking cocaine, which iirc i think he already has

Playing RL is a job, if i was caught either possessing it, taking it, or it showing up on a test in my job i would be sacked.

He's lucky it's only 2 years, I'm not completely holier than thou as when i was a teenager i had Cannabis/Speed and Ecstasy and i put that down to the invincible nature and naivety of being a teenager, when i started working/turned 18 i turned to just alcohol and hammered it for 3 years then gave up every drug including caffeine for 9 years 3 of which were job related, now i eat chocolate have a cup of tea or a can of Pepsi and the occasional (event) beer in moderation but i don't take drugs because i know that
a) it's not good for me
b) I'll lose my job

Hock knew what he was doing was wrong and he knew the consequences of being caught so now he should just face up to it and wait until the punishment has been served at the end of 2 years and not a day before.

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So much for the family image of RL. Yes kids, take cocaine no problem, we will always welcome you back with open arms.

I'm on the fence. One one side, Hock has been out of the game for almost 2 years and lost lots of money, added to this is the fact he is barely literate and not the sharpest.

On the other side, cocaine is a performance enhancing drug (about the same as a cup of coffee) and is illegal. The fact this is known and so was the penalty then the 2 year ban without parole is fair.

However, the varying shades of illegality in drugs is frustrating. Cocaine isn't really a performance enhancer, so has little impact on sport. Cannabis is illegal, but when legalised has been shown to reduce overall drug use. Alcohol is legal, but is probably one of the most damaging drugs to society out there. Less that 100 years ago drugs like cocaine were available from retail outlets such as Harrods and with chemical concoctions that are highly damaging being imported then I wonder if the more natural drugs are better as legal, controlled and tax revenue rather than criminal pockets.

Anyway, with 2% of the population taking cocaine, do I really think that banning RL players for 2 years would make a difference? Try the test with a legal drug, would banning players from drinking alcohol make YOU drink less?

Back when I played, there were plenty of posters around training which listed what you could and couldn't take from Night Nurse to Cocaine. I then think about players like Cuningham, clearly not stupid but got a suspended 2 year ban because the club "doctor" said it was OK but clearly got some benefit from the drugs and continued to play. If only all clubs could employ quacks and get away with this?

that cunningham situation is pretty unique though.