Good shout. We'd be going back to the Tony Smith favourite of using the LF position as an extra prop. Could come in handy against the big Hull pack. tiredness and Fatigue from big minutes would surely see us open up and allow Sneyy'snip'd to do whatever he wants and run the show. closing him down is vital. fast line speed and close him down, just like we used to do to Tomkins.

I'd put Atkins on Snyde

I can see Currie being moved to centre in place of T King with Westwood at LF.
Clark to do the big minutes (maybe even full 80) covering LF when Westwood is spelled with Dwyer.

Bit of a risk but I can't see Smith will making more than 2/3 changes to last weekend's 17.

Doesn't matter who it is. I'd take a Yellow card. Two men need to get in his face [Sneyd and bend him in half. if he takes a ball in, let him have it. Don't give him an inch of room and scare him out the game.
Line speed has to be mega. too many times we stay back and allow teams to run at us. we need to get up and hit them before any momentum is gained. Win the collision, win the floor and have to ruck played at our speed.
I don't think trying to complete sets and settle into the game will help up. I think going back to trying to blow teams away in the first 20 then dictate the play will suit us and playing against a side like Hull will win it for us.
Hull are used to teams trying to calm the game down before dominating the middle and running over them. If we rattle them early doors then they're in uncharted territory and the occasion will get to them.

I think a lot of our problems may be helped at Wembley by giving Clark & Dwyer more time on the pitch together to make ,hopefully,big yards through the Hull defence.. We need to front up more in defence too & stop Hull making too many yards on their sets which has been a problem with most opponents this year.

The elements around the kicking game are vital. We need to put pressure on their kickers to make sure the ball stays in play. I would guess that the number of touch finding kicks that Hull put in is higher than most teams. Pressure on the kicker may result in the odd charge down going astray but puts doubt in the kickers mind. The markers need to be wary of Houghton kicking out of DH also. Ratchford needs to show more urgency than he ever has in making sure the ball does not go into touch. We can't give their forwards a 30 second break at the end of every set. I would also be happy for us to kick early and turn their big backs (and forwards round)
In a way I would be happier to concede 2-3 yards per drive but dominate the tackle so the line is set better for pressure on the kicker.
I may be doing Hull a bit of a disservice here but Sneyd reminds me of Deacon at Bradford. Does a good job but not the most naturally gifted ballplayer ever. They are a good team though but we just have to wear them out. No penalties and a low error count and our dummy half running will start to work.

you wish

I'd be wary of playing Dwyer against the Hull pack.During the game down here he looked a real lightweight when tackling and was tossed around like a rag doll when attacking.

Or alternatively we'll kick 7 bells out sandow and our forwards will trample all over yours and the occasion will get to your team.

Who knows? Should be a belter though

I don't see Hull's pack wilting on the day. We look extremely fit and well conditioned. if anything, I think a hot day will suit us well. We'll have 4 forwards on the bench as Houghton will do the 80 so plenty of rotation to keep them fresh. I think tackling our forwards for 80 minutes on a hot day will be a challenge

Well you've convinced me, and I assume Tony Smith so we're not going to bother sending a team out, the trophy is yours.

Probably the only way we'll ever win at wembley

Whaaaat?
Don't be silly now. Dwyer had took a few games by the scruff and won't it for us.

Despite Dwyer's diminutive stature, he generally does ok. Granted, he won't be an aggressive defender against a pack your size, but he'll cling on to something and give it his all. It's his attack that could help us, the tempo he brings is a massive boost, and he finds a way to get between defenders.

I do expect him to play, but it may be for shorter periods. Clark is the main man, whenever we need something special, he is in the frame

Daryl is class absolute class. He is my choice for Man of Steel

Your pack hasn't been tested for the last two weeks. I'd be worried about that if I was a Hull supporter. And do you think tackling our forwards wont be a challenge? It'll be a tough test but the two game you've played us in so far have each been won by 2 points. you've hardly blown us off the park. fact of the matter is all the pressure is on Hull going into this game, the question is do they have the stones to win it when it counts?

Also, don't be too surprised if Dodds gets a place if Westerman isn't fit. Or even if he is fit to be honest.

You heard it here first.

I'm not worried at all. Although the games looked relatively easy in reality they were games against 2 of the top 8 so still a more than decent work out but we dominated both so they were good indicators for me. I've not suggested we'll blow you off the park but was responding to someone who claims you'll tire our forwards out on the day which I don't see happening. As for pressure, I'm sure we'll cope although as the bookie's favourites I think there's a fair amount on your team too.

I expect us to lose as it's at wembley but I don;t think there's much between the sides and it will likely only be won by less than 2 scores on the day IMO

Well actually we haven't heard anything, so if you know something more than we do please share that.

Surely not?

As much as I'd love to see this happen I don't believe that for a second. Smith said a couple of weeks ago in the WG that Wembley was to soon as he wasn't even running "at full pelt" yet.

Do you know something everyone else doesn't?

I'm not saying its nailed on by any means and I doubt he'll feature (I'd be concerned if he was). I just wouldn't be surprised if he gets the nod.

Jake. Sorry, I know Hull will be no pushover at all and I am not optimistic at all. I was suggesting that we will have to put an incredible effort in to stand a chance. The 2 games I have seen between us were close. We had phases where we looked like we were getting on top in the middle only for a few dropped balls and penalties gave you a breather and Hull came back stronger. Warrington went through a spell of say 7-8 mins where Hull looked a bit tired but one error meant that the pressure was removed. We need to sustain that for much longer but that would be the same against any decent team. My worry is that we have not done that since about April.

I think maybe an ideal start for Dodds would be one of the dead rubbers after Wembley ,either Catalans or Widnes. Failing that ,i can't see him featuring at all this season.

There are no dead rubbers after Wembley. Every game is a must win to secure finishing top. TS has said that whilst they are in contention we are aiming for all 3. We need to get out of this attitude that games don't matter. All games matter.