Yes, I agree with those points too. I do believe the vast majority of the crowd love the 2 hours around the match and that's it. There is probably nothing we could do to interest those.

But there must be a good few hundred who we could be of interest to but currently aren't reaching. As for being intimidated by events - I can't understand that one. Every event we have is very relaxed and enjoyable. Take the quiz night - people clearly love that as it sells out very year, yet most of the people that attend are non-members!

You know some people are intimidated posting on here anonymously, imagine real life.

Squadbuilder comes across as being very formal where you want people to turn up to meetings etc, the average fan isn't into attending things like meetings and asking questions as again it sounds very formal. Like has been pointed out above, most fans just want to turn up on matchdays and support the Wire and maybe have a couple of beers and some food as well.

Maybe if you made it less formal like having a poker night or lay on a comedian and have a curry night to get people down, that way you would kill a few birds with one stone as you would get a lot more people into one area then you could subtlily bring in what squadbuilder is about at some point during the evening and have a table where people can sign up.

You could make some money off the event as well if you advertised it well enough like some posters round the ground on matchdays and a big advert in the warrington guardian etc.

Maybe you have tried similar before, just putting across how squadbuilder is probably viewed as by the average fan.

then you're gonna hve to start charging people to pay for the comedian, or whatever, and that'll be another excuse.

That said, i can't remember what your record is on attending these (not meant accusatory, you know what i mean) would what you've suggested above get you out the house and to one of these events?

I used to pay to squadbuilder each month but i'd rather not go into it why i stopped, no i wouldn't be interested in going down even if they had Phil Clarke tied to a wall where you could lob cow dung at him for 50p a go.

Just putting forward some things that may entice the average fan down rather than attending something that sounds a bit formal.

I'm just not sure people kind of get what it is, like what does it entail. What's my commitment, I know financially it's £5, but what about time wise etc and it's then you'll get folk who will question as has been pointed out now with the investment if their £5 is actually needed anymore.

I think with SqB, I'd almost be tempted to go the other way and play on this being a little bit elitist if i'm honest. I'd make a big play on the fact that if you don't join this, pay this, here's what you'll miss out on and ramp up on that, sort of you look after the clubs future and the club will look after you, and here's how :- (I've made these up)

* Monthly prize draw, make it like 'money can't buy' style prizes, so maybe a shirt, signed & presented by your favourite player or a press matchday experience, go early, sit in the press seats, attend the post match press conference, a day with the wolves, train and put cones out or whatever ..

* Quarterly updates from Smith, Moran etc on the club, interesting that you wouldn't normally know.

* Monthly training reports from Marshall, Bastian etc on who's gone well, what they're particularly pleased with etc, just their insight.

* Squadbuilder interview - each month you send in your questions, a dozen are selected and an interview formed with a player/coach etc.

* Ones to look out for, a profile of a an U'16, U'18 etc who might be one to keep an eye on etc ...

I'd almost have it where you'd hear people saying "Where did you hear that ..." or "How did you get to do that?"

It's like, you guys pay £10 a year, you guys want to be closer to the club than the average fan does on a daily basis, so here you go ... Almost appeal to the nerdier fans, which by being on here I think we are for starters. I'd sort of move Squadbuilder to the people, rather than now the people have to come to it, more information coming to the way of the user, valuable, interesting information too and less reliance on getting off bums and attending events after days at work etc.

i used to like having the cheap thrill of having the squadbuilder logo on my shirt a ways back, not done that in ages now mind.

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Re the Squadbuilder thing, I often consider joining up, but never quite get round to it. Prompted by this thread I had a look at the SB webpage, where its last documented 'achievement' was in the summer of 2008. I know these things are developmental and take time and so on, but if I had been paying a fiver a month for the last three years, I think I'd have liked a bit more detail about what the cash is being used for (as mentioned by someone else further up the page).
Not a criticism, as such, more an observation.

move the big screen, suspend it on wires in thenorth west corner of the ground, so that you can walk underneath it, between the two stands, making it much more visable for most fans, not taking up any more room and complimenting the filled in corners when they are complete, and three pint glasses! a higher profile for squad builder on match days ie, flyers and tannoy annoucements pre & post match local pubs to put posters up advertising sqbuilder and monthly prizes for membership.


my favourite idea is, you know the camera placement in the east stand, when it's not being used for tv covarage, get bensons for beds to put a bed in that space and raffle the right to watch the match whilst in bed with free waitress service! i'd buy a ticket for that and turn up in my pj's for that! publicity all round !!

I'd pay to see that!

With regards to the SB, it is something i have considered in the past but dont really know:

A)What my money goes towards.
B)What my membership brings to me benifits/commitments/responsibilities

Now, for the amount of money involved, i wouldn't be that fussed if the benifits that membership bring to me are very minimal if i knew that my money was a big benifit to the club.

It's kinda the same with the Supporters Trust, what is it and what do i get/do by being involved?

SEB, i know you're probably the man for these questions but if it is something i would really be keen on, and i imagine my dad (who i always have gone to games with since being small) could be sold on it easily too.

Winning the Super League.

Bump (for Seb's info on SB in the hope of gaining a new member)

There will be annual reports presented at tonight's AGM. If no-one else does it before I get chance, I'll put some of the highlights from them on here.

Answers to Finsbury Wire in blue below: With regards to the SB, it is something i have considered in the past but dont really know: A)What my money goes towards. =#0000FFIf you join the Trust only (just a fiver a year): www.squadbuilder.co.uk/wwstwhat.asp If you join Squadbuilder (which includes Trust membership): www.squadbuilder.co.uk/sqbwhat.asp B)What my membership brings to me benifits/commitments/responsibilities Now, for the amount of money involved, i wouldn't be that fussed if the benifits that membership bring to me are very minimal if i knew that my money was a big benifit to the club. It's kinda the same with the Supporters Trust, what is it and what do i get/do by being involved? =#0000FFBenefits - currently they include excellent access to the club, the stadium, management, coaches, players via various events through the year ranging from informal, fun and informative Q&As through the Quiz Night, Player of the Year Awards and functions such as dinners. A bigger list of benefits is currently being worked on. The money is very definitely a big benefit to the club, they are very grateful and complimentary of the efforts of the fans in raising funds to aid youth development. John Bastian, Ben Lazenby, Richard Marshall, Gary Chambers, Peter Farrell etc are all great fans of what we do and we work closely with them to identify where to spend our funds. Only last night, we were presented with a nice glass trophy by Andy Gatcliffe from the club to thank us. Some recent examples of where the funding from member subscriptions, Quiz Night, Dinners, raffles and donations goes: -direct junior and academy players; -squad sponsorship for all of u16s, u18s and u20s; -pre-season training camps and trips for u16s, u18s and u20s -talent identification sponsorship; -various equipment purchases (such as tackle bags, clothing, training balls, memory sticks (for personal training plans and video reviews)); -Player of the Year (first grade and academy grades) and Player of the Month (for u18s and u20s) trophies and awards; -promotional costs; -charitable donations etc. SEB, i know you're probably the man for these questions but if it is something i would really be keen on, and i imagine my dad (who i always have gone to games with since being small) could be sold on it easily too. =#0000FFI hope the above (very quickly written!) snapshot goes someway to encouraging you and your dad and indeed everyone else reading this to give some consideration towards joining. Last night's AGM with a panel of Andy Gatcliffe, Ralph Rimmer and John Bastian provided excellent direct access to the people and issues at the top of our club and the game in general and lots of interesting stuff was discussed, including at least one bit of exclusive, excellent news. Hopefully a full report on last night will follow, I was only able to attend the first half. I am always wary of writing stuff like this because I worry I'll miss something important out but Finsbury Wire asked some direct questions so I wanted to give something in return. We are thinking of starting a newsletter (something we have thought about before) - perhaps new or current members might be able to help out with things like that? Any other questions just ask and me or one of the many other Trust board members will glady answer.

Answers to Finsbury Wire in blue below: With regards to the SB, it is something i have considered in the past but dont really know: A)What my money goes towards. =#0000FFIf you join the Trust only (just a fiver a year): www.squadbuilder.co.uk/wwstwhat.asp If you join Squadbuilder (which includes Trust membership): www.squadbuilder.co.uk/sqbwhat.asp B)What my membership brings to me benifits/commitments/responsibilities Now, for the amount of money involved, i wouldn't be that fussed if the benifits that membership bring to me are very minimal if i knew that my money was a big benifit to the club. It's kinda the same with the Supporters Trust, what is it and what do i get/do by being involved? =#0000FFBenefits - currently they include excellent access to the club, the stadium, management, coaches, players via various events through the year ranging from informal, fun and informative Q&As through the Quiz Night, Player of the Year Awards and functions such as dinners. A bigger list of benefits is currently being worked on. The money is very definitely a big benefit to the club, they are very grateful and complimentary of the efforts of the fans in raising funds to aid youth development. John Bastian, Ben Lazenby, Richard Marshall, Gary Chambers, Peter Farrell etc are all great fans of what we do and we work closely with them to identify where to spend our funds. Only last night, we were presented with a nice glass trophy by Andy Gatcliffe from the club to thank us. Some recent examples of where the funding from member subscriptions, Quiz Night, Dinners, raffles and donations goes: -direct junior and academy players; -squad sponsorship for all of u16s, u18s and u20s; -pre-season training camps and trips for u16s, u18s and u20s -talent identification sponsorship; -various equipment purchases (such as tackle bags, clothing, training balls, memory sticks (for personal training plans and video reviews)); -Player of the Year (first grade and academy grades) and Player of the Month (for u18s and u20s) trophies and awards; -promotional costs; -charitable donations etc. SEB, i know you're probably the man for these questions but if it is something i would really be keen on, and i imagine my dad (who i always have gone to games with since being small) could be sold on it easily too. =#0000FFI hope the above (very quickly written!) snapshot goes someway to encouraging you and your dad and indeed everyone else reading this to give some consideration towards joining. Last night's AGM with a panel of Andy Gatcliffe, Ralph Rimmer and John Bastian provided excellent direct access to the people and issues at the top of our club and the game in general and lots of interesting stuff was discussed, including at least one bit of exclusive, excellent news. Hopefully a full report on last night will follow, I was only able to attend the first half. I am always wary of writing stuff like this because I worry I'll miss something important out but Finsbury Wire asked some direct questions so I wanted to give something in return. We are thinking of starting a newsletter (something we have thought about before) - perhaps new or current members might be able to help out with things like that? Any other questions just ask and me or one of the many other Trust board members will glady answer.

Last night was our AGM - which I accept may sound formal. However, despite that title it most certainly was not. All fans had to do was wander into the room, take a seat (or visit the bar first!), and then be entertained and informed via exclusive access to people at the top of the club and the RFL. It was very relaxed and quite a few laughs in amongst the interesting information. If you want to ask a question you can, or you can write them down for others to ask or just listen to others ask questions.

It really should appeal to a wide section of our fans.

The only issue I have is how much notice we're given for functions etc. I appreciate it that it's hard to organize etc. The one's I've attended have always been very enjoyable.

Its main aim is to strengthen the bonds between Warrington Wolves and all the people of the Warrington area, and to promote the game of Rugby League as both a participation activity and a spectator sport at all levels.

I agree with everything that Steve has said above. On its initial inception that is what squadbuilder stood for. What it actually means is that any money will be used to develop the elite kids at each age group. No funding has to my knowledge in the last 2 or 3 years gone to any kind of community group to help increase participation or spectator levels.

Advertisment of what it actually does needs to be improved as does its mission statement. A record of where the money is being spent should be produced on a regular basis.

It's usually a few weeks notice for the smaller events and usually much more for the bigger ones.

I must just catch them late on here then.

Paying for the dance team isn't increasing participation in Rugby League. I know that they actively helped amatuer clubs on the schemes inception but not in the past 2 or 3 years to my knowledge.

Are the accounts published anywhere?

Quote ="SEB"Answers to Finsbury Wire in blue below: With regards to the SB, it is something i have considered in the past but dont really know: A)What my money goes towards. =#0000FFIf you join the Trust only (just a fiver a year): www.squadbuilder.co.uk/wwstwhat.asp If you join Squadbuilder (which includes Trust membership): www.squadbuilder.co.uk/sqbwhat.asp B)What my membership brings to me benifits/commitments/responsibilities Now, for the amount of money involved, i wouldn't be that fussed if the benifits that membership bring to me are very minimal if i knew that my money was a big benifit to the club. It's kinda the same with the Supporters Trust, what is it and what do i get/do by being involved? =#0000FFBenefits - currently they include excellent access to the club, the stadium, management, coaches, players via various events through the year ranging from informal, fun and informative Q&As through the Quiz Night, Player of the Year Awards and functions such as dinners. A bigger list of benefits is currently being worked on. The money is very definitely a big benefit to the club, they are very grateful and complimentary of the efforts of the fans in raising funds to aid youth development. John Bastian, Ben Lazenby, Richard Marshall, Gary Chambers, Peter Farrell etc are all great fans of what we do and we work closely with them to identify where to spend our funds. Only last night, we were presented with a nice glass trophy by Andy Gatcliffe from the club to thank us. Some recent examples of where the funding from member subscriptions, Quiz Night, Dinners, raffles and donations goes: -direct junior and academy players; -squad sponsorship for all of u16s, u18s and u20s; -pre-season training camps and trips for u16s, u18s and u20s -talent identification sponsorship; -various equipment purchases (such as tackle bags, clothing, training balls, memory sticks (for personal training plans and video reviews)); -Player of the Year (first grade and academy grades) and Player of the Month (for u18s and u20s) trophies and awards; -promotional costs; -charitable donations etc. SEB, i know you're probably the man for these questions but if it is something i would really be keen on, and i imagine my dad (who i always have gone to games with since being small) could be sold on it easily too. =#0000FFI hope the above (very quickly written!) snapshot goes someway to encouraging you and your dad and indeed everyone else reading this to give some consideration towards joining. Last night's AGM with a panel of Andy Gatcliffe, Ralph Rimmer and John Bastian provided excellent direct access to the people and issues at the top of our club and the game in general and lots of interesting stuff was discussed, including at least one bit of exclusive, excellent news. Hopefully a full report on last night will follow, I was only able to attend the first half. I am always wary of writing stuff like this because I worry I'll miss something important out but Finsbury Wire asked some direct questions so I wanted to give something in return. We are thinking of starting a newsletter (something we have thought about before) - perhaps new or current members might be able to help out with things like that? Any other questions just ask and me or one of the many other Trust board members will glady answer.'" Really appreciate all of that SEB, definatley something I (and i'll sell my dad on it too) would like to take up. I have the form printed off from the SB site and will run it round to the club either at the weekend or next week. Once signed up, would be happy to help out with whatever I could

Quote ="SEB"Answers to Finsbury Wire in blue below: With regards to the SB, it is something i have considered in the past but dont really know: A)What my money goes towards. =#0000FFIf you join the Trust only (just a fiver a year): www.squadbuilder.co.uk/wwstwhat.asp If you join Squadbuilder (which includes Trust membership): www.squadbuilder.co.uk/sqbwhat.asp B)What my membership brings to me benifits/commitments/responsibilities Now, for the amount of money involved, i wouldn't be that fussed if the benifits that membership bring to me are very minimal if i knew that my money was a big benifit to the club. It's kinda the same with the Supporters Trust, what is it and what do i get/do by being involved? =#0000FFBenefits - currently they include excellent access to the club, the stadium, management, coaches, players via various events through the year ranging from informal, fun and informative Q&As through the Quiz Night, Player of the Year Awards and functions such as dinners. A bigger list of benefits is currently being worked on. The money is very definitely a big benefit to the club, they are very grateful and complimentary of the efforts of the fans in raising funds to aid youth development. John Bastian, Ben Lazenby, Richard Marshall, Gary Chambers, Peter Farrell etc are all great fans of what we do and we work closely with them to identify where to spend our funds. Only last night, we were presented with a nice glass trophy by Andy Gatcliffe from the club to thank us. Some recent examples of where the funding from member subscriptions, Quiz Night, Dinners, raffles and donations goes: -direct junior and academy players; -squad sponsorship for all of u16s, u18s and u20s; -pre-season training camps and trips for u16s, u18s and u20s -talent identification sponsorship; -various equipment purchases (such as tackle bags, clothing, training balls, memory sticks (for personal training plans and video reviews)); -Player of the Year (first grade and academy grades) and Player of the Month (for u18s and u20s) trophies and awards; -promotional costs; -charitable donations etc. SEB, i know you're probably the man for these questions but if it is something i would really be keen on, and i imagine my dad (who i always have gone to games with since being small) could be sold on it easily too. =#0000FFI hope the above (very quickly written!) snapshot goes someway to encouraging you and your dad and indeed everyone else reading this to give some consideration towards joining. Last night's AGM with a panel of Andy Gatcliffe, Ralph Rimmer and John Bastian provided excellent direct access to the people and issues at the top of our club and the game in general and lots of interesting stuff was discussed, including at least one bit of exclusive, excellent news. Hopefully a full report on last night will follow, I was only able to attend the first half. I am always wary of writing stuff like this because I worry I'll miss something important out but Finsbury Wire asked some direct questions so I wanted to give something in return. We are thinking of starting a newsletter (something we have thought about before) - perhaps new or current members might be able to help out with things like that? Any other questions just ask and me or one of the many other Trust board members will glady answer.'" Really appreciate all of that SEB, definatley something I (and i'll sell my dad on it too) would like to take up. I have the form printed off from the SB site and will run it round to the club either at the weekend or next week. Once signed up, would be happy to help out with whatever I could

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