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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"unfortunately I agree with the Fecktard on this it was a saints Scrum...
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Monkey Man thought it wasnt so you cant have agreed with him
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| Quote ="saintc"No
The ball was kicked off and no one touched it.
=redThe ball was in the air over the touchline - the ball is still live. The Cats player jumped with his feet off the ground out of play and palmed it towards the field - the ball is still live.
The ball never made it back into the field of play, it bounced out of play after being made dead by the Cats player.
Scrum Saints.
A top tip from the wise, before calling someone a fecktard get your facts straigh or you end up looking like one
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But if you have your foot over the dead ball line and catch the ball it is a 20m restart.(your advantage)
Therefore if you are over the touchline and touch the ball it should be a scrum to you
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| Quote ="saintc"Because it hadnt touched the ground. Had the Catalans player managed to palm that ball back in without either himself or the ball touching the ground outside of the field of play then it would have been play on.'"
hate to say it you right on this the only thing you are right on tho...if it was the other way round you lot would be up in arms moaning...one day it will happen see if a bellend like you agrees
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| Quote ="roversmad"But if you have your foot over the dead ball line and catch the ball it is a 20m restart.(your advantage)
Therefore if you are over the touchline and touch the ball it should be a scrum to you'"
no
the difference is that the feet are on the ground for one example and not the other. This really isnt that difficult. In addition, to take advantage of that restart thing you have to have one foot out and the other in the field of play, dont you?
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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"hate to say it you right on this the only thing you are right on tho...if it was the other way round you lot would be up in arms moaning...one day it will happen see if a bellend like you agrees'"
Thankyou for your nice comments, they are appreciated.
If it happened to us I wouldnt moan because I know the rules. I dont sit there in perpetual outrage waiting to jump on a ref for allegedly cheating in favour of a team i dislike so Im unlikely to jump in like a moron with cries of cheat without getting my facts straight first
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| Quote ="saintc"before calling someone a fecktard get your facts straigh or you end up looking like one
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That is ace, you played any traffic cones lately?
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| It's a shame RL has no strong willed personalities like Ballack and Drogba to stand up against refereeing injustice.
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| Quote ="gateaux"Sorry it was never destined to be a "very close game". I can't believe anyone is seriously suggesting that a 34 point difference is down to ref bias
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You never answered my question about who you support.
Given your totally biased comments you are a Saints fan.
Im speaking as a neutral in that i dont care for saints or catalans, and what i witnessed yesterday was a poor refereeing display by Thaler which benefited saints and more than hindered catalans.
The ref basically gave saints two trys by awarding penalties that never were and also disallowed a perfectly good catalans try. Without those glaring errors alone it would have been a much closer game.
You are talking out of your saints rose tinted glasses. Just take it from a neutrals point of view and accept it
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| Quote ="Mark"That is ace, you played any traffic cones lately?'"
We're top of the league and in the semi finals of the CC
That will do me mate.
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| Quote ="saintc"We're top of the league and in the semi finals of the CC
That will do me mate.
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The whole of SL will be laughing their heads off as you come a cropper in both competitions.
If the RFL weren't so weak Saints would surely be facing some kind of disciplinary for treating the Magic Weekend with utter contempt.
You and your club obviously think you are a cut above everyone else.
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| Quote ="saintc"We're top of the league and in the semi finals of the CC
That will do me mate.
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So Sts have a "by" from the quarter finals, straight to the semi`s eh?
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| Quote ="saintc"no
the difference is that the feet are on the ground for one example and not the other. This really isnt that difficult. In addition, to take advantage of that restart thing you have to have one foot out and the other in the field of play, dont you?'"
My apologies, you are correct. As for the one foot out, I thought they had changed that rule? Certianly in the case of having one foot behind the dead ball line from kick-offs, somethiong that Phil Howlett did to great effect.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"It's a shame RL has no strong willed personalities like Ballack and Drogba to stand up against refereeing injustice.'"
Morgan did and got a 4K fine they need to look at the refs performances they need dropping when they have a poor game. t.allibert was poor in our game wrongly giving a 20m tap instead of a scrum twice but the lines men where just as bad. hence the need for 2 refs in the modern game like the Nrl
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| Quote ="HKR Tribal"Morgan did and got a 4K fine they need to look at the refs performances they need dropping when they have a poor game. t.allibert was poor in our game wrongly giving a 20m tap instead of a scrum twice but the lines men where just as bad. hence the need for 2 refs in the modern game like the Nrl'"
Two referees won't improve their decision making.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"It was never afforded the opportunity to be a contest. That decision from the kick-off was one of the worst I have ever witnessed, compounded by the fact he conferred with his touch judge!'"
the decision from the kick off was correct....Pelo jumped from within the field and touched the ball, which then landed into touch. Had he just left it, it would have been a Catalans scrum, he had no need to jump for it.
Join the list of Pelo, Noble, Kear, French and Davies who dont know the rules.
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"the decision from the kick off was correct....Pelo jumped from within the field and touched the ball, which then landed into touch. Had he just left it, it would have been a Catalans scrum, he had no need to jump for it.
Join the list of Pelo, Noble, Kear, French and Davies who dont know the rules.'"
Have you deliberately chosen to ignore the past three pages?
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| ...as for the two 50/50 balls, they were just that - they could have been given either way. The ref probably should have given a clearer indication of what he intended to give.
Although Carlaw did knock on before the 2nd one, so it would have been a Saints scrum anyway.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Have you deliberately chosen to ignore the past three pages?'"
no - but i probably should have read the whole thread before jumping in at the first idiotic post.
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| The decision for the scrum was correct however from listening in on the conversation between Thaler and the TJ on teh tv commentary (and I'm sure SC can confirm that) they concluded that a Catalan player touched the ball before it bounced into touch.
I wouldn't have given the Wellans try either, Graham clearly loses the the ball trying to put it down, it only goes backwards as the Catalan's players hand is there; what is the defender meant to do, not try to hold the ball up?
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| Quote ="the fucitolbladderwrack"So Sts have a "by" from the quarter finals, straight to the semi`s eh?
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Pretty much yeah. And if you say that you'd feel differently had Wire drawn Gateshead then your a liar.
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| Quote ="saintc"Pretty much yeah. And if you say that you'd feel differently had Wire drawn Gateshead then your a liar.'"
Oh I do hope we meet you in the final at Wembley.
What a wonderful occassion to finally get one over on you
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| Totally bemused by this thread. I thought Thaler had an excellent game. My only complaints would be he could have called held during the two cases of fighting over a 50/50 ball and told the saints player to play the ball, but I think that's being a bit picky.
Anyone who regularly does any refereeing will know it's impossible to get everything 100% correct and it's definitely impossible to please both sets of fans, if either!
Saints won because they defended well, made few mistakes and played some good rugby. Catalans on the other hand missed too many tackles and made too many silly errors.
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| Quote ="SEB"Totally bemused by this thread. '"
What do you expect?
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| Quote ="Mr Potatoe Head"Oh I do hope we meet you in the final at Wembley.
What a wonderful occassion to finally get one over on you
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TBH Im dreading if we get you guys at all because sods law says that when we finally lose to you it will be in a game that really matters.
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| Quote ="saintc"TBH Im dreading if we get you guys at all because sods law says that when we finally lose to you it will be in a game that really matters.'"
If that happens, RL Fans will go into meltdown.
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