this was the official team list that i've pulled from the net, it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things to the point i was asking duckie to expand on. (which he hasn't)

I did. I said the post you copied was incorrect.
I also stand by what I said. ‘Almost every player in the 13 was over 6” (bar Patton) and bigger than the opposite number (bar Warmsley, who was unfit from injury)’.
I’m not going into digging up to prove my point to you FMC. I did the research on the day of the final prior to the match, I know it to be correct. Why don’t you prove me wrong?
I knew we couldn’t lose that day.

Thompson on the Wire radar.

Joe Philbin - 5ft 10"
Jake Mamo - 5ft 10"
Matthew Davis - 5ft 10"

I did not include Patton. (only 5ft 8"icon_wink.gif

So what does that have to do with buying a prop…,or the starting 13?
Do you ever read a post?

You tell me. Only answering one of your many wrong facts..... Engage the brain before putting pen to paper.

Obviously not, and I’m running out of ink a..

And brain cells.

Matt Davis isn't 5'10, i'm 5'9 and trained with him before and he's a bit shorter than me. i'd say he's 5'8

Heard we're making moves for both Dudson and Kasiano for next season. Both out of contract I believe.

Well if its true they are bigger than the current props

Wouldn't complain with that at all if True

Both 33 next year, don’t strike me as long term solutions. Kasiano can have an impact, not sure what Dudson will bring to the table if I’m honest.

Kasiano is another Sita, very limited minutes these days. Dudson has been around a number of clubs, and Wigan moved him on 8 years ago. They might have some size, but I'm underwhelmed.

Mmm I thought with a clean sheet and healthy cap space we would be aiming a little higher. But I don't know the market and who is available.

I’m with you on this one, no thank you smells of desperation which I know we are but there is plenty of time before next season to do better.

Unless Rubber Duckie confirms this then I’m not interested. #TheOracle

I'm also hearing that Rhys Kennedy and either Max King or Paul vaughn are on their way so lots of Prop rumours at the minute. Kennedy Scored this morning so is getting some more game time this year. I'm just happy we are being linked with props ha ha ha

I would be pretty annoyed if we signed dudson less annoyed with kasiano but these are not the type of signings we want for long term, if it's one or the other as a budget prop as we've got two other big signings at prop and these two are an addition to those.

If we resign cooper and go into next year with cooper, bullock kasiano and dudson I would be very worried at either Powell's reculruitment requests. Or if he is actually making the signings.

As with most here, I'd be a little indifferent if we did sign them.

Kasiano for a couple of seasons and a new star prop would be more ideal.

I wouldn’t be against getting Dudson back at Wigan tbh. He was a young, overweight liability when he was with us years ago but he’s really impressed me these past few seasons. He’s got himself in good shape and is a good superleague player nowadays. The only worry would be his age. I think his absolute peak was probably his last season or two at Salford and his first at Catalans.

I'd take max king. Really don't want us to sign dudson. And let us not forget, we should have Harrison raring to go next season.

To be fair, We (Wigan) usually get it right in terms of which players to move on but we have a very patchy record when it comes to props. Dudson and Mossop to be fair improved out of sight when they left. Dudson would be a solid if unspectacular signing. I said it at the beginning of the season that if Bullock was Hill's replacement you would be very underwhelmed. Good for 5 mins or so then powderpuff for the rest of the match. It's quite amusing that we always manage to offload our scraps to Warrington. It's obviously not so funny if you are a Warrington fan. I see Jack Hughes is injured. Willie Isa is off contract if you need a new second rower. Im afraid Tony Clubb has retired though but not even Fitzpatrick would fall for that one

Yeah with Dudson i don't think we'd need him, but Kasiano on a 1 year deal for impact off the bench i'd be happy with. Max King has re-signed with canterbury so won't be him. Paul Vaughn would be a big gamble, i know powell can turn a bad lad around but i'd rather leave him be. And my god i ALWAYS forget we've signed Harrison, not expecting anything massive from him but will be nice to get him in the mix and see how he develops

Decent performance today from Mulhern, maybe we stick with him and see how Harrison goes it might not look so bad up front although I would like us to spend in that position