Exaclty Hicksy i'm sure I saw on saturday V. France that Westwood had made the most tackles yet didn't come on till 20 minutes. He's alot better in defence, round the legs every tackle, hardly misses.

And before you start raving on how many penalities Benny concedes he isn't half as bad under Che now, also for the penalities Ben does concede, Curls equals it with his knock on's. I just don't rate him.

Westwood has missed more tackles in less games.
Lockers has made considerably more tackles and marker tackles.

Chris Hicks for me.

Jon Wilkin and Paul Clough are both better defenders than SOL IMO.

Bu O'lauglin as made more appearanes so i would be unfair To Compare, i see O'lauglin as made more errors.

Thats why I said considerably more.

Westwood averages 28 tackles per game.

Lockers 31.

They make the same amount of marker tackles per game.

Lockers is much more physical and his technique and wrestling tactics are far more advanced.

Westwood is also not as mobile.

Wigan- O'loughlin
Wire- Monas
Saints- Eastmond

O I see you mean nearly breáking Robinsons jaw/nose ala Murrayfield?

Roby, Graham and TP before Eastmond at Saints IMO.

Ignoring the fact there was a picture doing the rounds where it clearly showed he didn't hit his head, regardless of what the disciplinary panel said, then sure.

I don't really think you have a case. It wasn't as bad as people thought it was at the time. It's the only bad one he has done all season. With people like Morley in your team... well....

To be honest, it's all based on opinion. My opinion is I'd rather Westwood over O'laughlin.

realistically the top 5 arent gonna 3 or 4 from wire i reckon maybee two with monas and moz king will be up there though, i reckon graham, oloughin, possibly mcguire as a dark horse this year had been a good year for a lot of people but we dont know who will keep it all the way through

Chris Bridge, each way.

Yep and you're entitled to that. A fellow pro called Jamie Peacock came out last week and said that Sean O'Loughlin has been the best player in the league this season. I would rather trust his opinion than yours. O'Loughlin > Westwood, and yes before you say it, in defence.

Your coach didn't have that opinion when he was England coach.

They're good mates, he felt sorry for him after knocking his team out of the CC.

O'Loughlin, i'll be honest at first i didn't get it [the hype but actually i thought i'd go out of my way to watch him (more to actually tell Wigan fans he's pap and here are my reasons why i think he's pap) but i'm sorry i was wrong, the guy is an absolute machine in defence

His attacks come on alot aswell, up there with the best half backs in the league when it comes to try assists. Good raps from Peacock the other day "Probably the best player in superleague"

MOS

Monnas, makes Wire tick.
Lockers, explained above.
Graham, best player in superleague IMO the guys a beast
Pat, Mr consistant
KFC, cause hes retiring

Nobody from Leeds or any other has stood out as much as these (maybe Langley)

Shame Roberts got injured when he was in that form.

YPOTY

Harrison
Sam
Eastmond

Of course, man of steel isn't suppose to be the best player...

Top try scorer currently - Pat Richards/Hodgson
Top points scorer - Pat Richards

If he keeps his form up, keeps scoring tries/points and Wigan finish top, I can't see it being anybody other than Pat Richards as the MOS

Its not all about scoring points, otherwise the likes of Graham/Roby/Peacock would not have won it in the past! Its about contribution to the team voted for by other teams players.

Richards will be up there, no doubt. I think he's awesome.
Joel tompkins is another along with Puletua and Graham at Saints. Danny McGuire also a possibility.

I'm biased but think Monas will be heading the list followed by Oloughlin and King, then Richards and Graham.

Monas will be up there. Your maybe a little biased

but I think it'll be between Lockers, Monas and Richards currently. Graham is quality but I think the other three have really stood out.

But at the end of the day, we have a long time to go yet. Lots of things can happen.