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| I'm being quite selfish so I'm pleased he's not in the England for Denver.
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"Still got a bit of ‘Wigan’ in him. Sees his booty a bit too much over not a great deal, just get on with it and play the ball Josh! Might take a season to get it out of him.
Other than that, best signing for the club for ages.'"
I agree that he's our best signing for ages, but, might disagree that we need to get 'every' "bit of Wigan" out of him, let's keep that winning mentality if we can?
I'm also really pleasantly surprised, probably based on my anti-Wigan preconceptions, about how he seems to have a positive influence beyond an excellent try scoring record. Top notch so far
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| Yes there's surely a lesson to learn about the Wigan attitude. We all thought Charnley was an easy figure to hate when he played for Wigan, but his attitude is first class. Fully committed and driven to win, no big ego about himself. Wigan when they were winning Grand Finals had a squad full of these kind of lads.
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| JC is lovin it, we're lovin it, he water glide any time he wants for me.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Yes there's surely a lesson to learn about the Wigan attitude. We all thought Charnley was an easy figure to hate when he played for Wigan, but his attitude is first class. Fully committed and driven to win, no big ego about himself. Wigan when they were winning Grand Finals had a squad full of these kind of lads.'"
Often this "hate" is often envy bubbling up through frustration. He has a winning attitude and one of the best finishers we have had since Hicks.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Often this "hate" is often envy bubbling up through frustration. He has a winning attitude and one of the best finishers we have had since Hicks.'"
Don't get me wrong as i thought Chris Hicks was terrific, but JC is twice the player.
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| Quote ="kirtonLindseyWolf"Don't get me wrong as i thought Chris Hicks was terrific, but JC is twice the player.'"
Not yet. The marker is down. 3 tries or more are required at Wembley first.
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| I am basing my opinion on Speed, Strength, defence and all round ability. Are you basing yours on a Challenge Cup final, where he played outside a former Kangaroo and SOO player and a Lee Briers kicking masterclass? I must admit the try where he went through and under 4 defenders was pretty special!!
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| Quote ="kirtonLindseyWolf"I am basing my opinion on Speed, Strength, defence and all round ability. Are you basing yours on a Challenge Cup final, where he played outside a former Kangaroo and SOO player and a Lee Briers kicking masterclass? I must admit the try where he went through and under 4 defenders was pretty special!!'"
There's Charnley's 2nd marker then.
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| Im not sure Charnley is twice the player Hicks was. Hicks was a fine all rounder. He was a better defender than JC. I would argue he was quicker. And he tormented Ryan Hall both in the air and on the ground at Wembley that day when Hall was spoken as being the best winger in the world at the time.
But JC is top player without a doubt. ....
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| I think we can all agree he is a better option than Russell.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I think we can all agree he is a better option than Russell.'"
Why, how many metres has he made from dummy half?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Why, how many metres has he made from dummy half?'" Well putting the metres subject aside let’s ralk about brain farts.Russell was in a league of his own.
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| Quote ="runningman29"Well putting the metres subject aside let’s ralk about brain farts.Russell was in a league of his own.'"
Lol.
I was just trying to address some balance.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Often this "hate" is often envy bubbling up through frustration. He has a winning attitude and one of the best finishers we have had since Hicks.'"
I think he's the best finisher since Hicks in terms of ability, although Joel Monaghan was a consistent try scorer over several seasons so Charnley has a fair bit to do to top that. But I think in terms of ability he is a better player than JM, with Hicks I'd take arguments either way for who was better, I'm not bothered as they are both terrific players who played for us.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Im not sure Charnley is twice the player Hicks was. Hicks was a fine all rounder. He was a better defender than JC. I would argue he was quicker. And he tormented Ryan Hall both in the air and on the ground at Wembley that day when Hall was spoken as being the best winger in the world at the time.
But JC is top player without a doubt. ....'"
My comment on Charnley being twice the player is probably an over exaggeration. Of all Chris Hicks's fine qualities I never saw being quick as one of them. I remember him having a long loping stride that took him over the ground quickly, but not pace to burn. My memory has somewhat faded it seems over the last 6 years.
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| Quote ="kirtonLindseyWolf"My comment on Charnley being twice the player is probably an over exaggeration. Of all Chris Hicks's fine qualities I never saw being quick as one of them. I remember him having a long loping stride that took him over the ground quickly, but not pace to burn. My memory has somewhat faded it seems over the last 6 years.'"
"Probably"!!
Good grief, have you ever thought of working for Trump's administration?
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"I think he's the best finisher since Hicks in terms of ability, although Joel Monaghan was a consistent try scorer over several seasons so Charnley has a fair bit to do to top that. But I think in terms of ability he is a better player than JM, with Hicks I'd take arguments either way for who was better, I'm not bothered as they are both terrific players who played for us.'"
Completely agree. I think JM was superb at scoring from the cross field kick, he made it an art form. However for natural pace and evasiveness I think Charnley is far superior. But you are right he has big shoes to fill.
I don't know what Smith was thinking when he fielded the likes of Russell, Rhys Evans, Ormsby et al and expected us to be competitive.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie""Probably"!!
Good grief, have you ever thought of working for Trump's administration?'"
Nice one RD.
If i had to classify you as working for a political Organisation it would be the Hilary Clinton mob. Looking after the downtrodden and afflicted ( Matty Russel) is your calling but overall you are still just a general ar*e!!!
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| Quote ="kirtonLindseyWolf"Nice one RD...overall you are still just a general ar*e!!!
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Thank you for respecting my senior rank, Private Ar*e."
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| Quote ="Wires71"Completely agree. I think JM was superb at scoring from the cross field kick, he made it an art form. However for natural pace and evasiveness I think Charnley is far superior. But you are right he has big shoes to fill.
I don't know what Smith was thinking when he fielded the likes of Russell, Rhys Evans, Ormsby et al and expected us to be competitive.'"
maybe he thought he was a good enough coach to get them to finish top...he did in 2016 at least
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| How did it work out for him in 2017?
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"maybe he thought he was a good enough coach to get them to finish top...he did in 2016 at least'"
The standard of SL in 2016 was probably the lowest across the league I can ever recall...thank god for Sandow.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"The standard of SL in 2016 was probably the lowest across the league I can ever recall...thank god for Sandow.'"
Our best chance of GF glory in a long time and still cocked it up!
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| We only had 2 front line props for most of the season, by the time of the semi final they were done , but managed to drag us across the line. The GF was a game too far. A lot of credit for us getting that far should go to Hill and Sims.
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