I doubt Mose has a six-pack. He is good for hitting half-backs late off the ball though, I'll give you that.

He knows , he's just bitter

It was Wilkin who stretched the leg wasnt it? Which I didn't get as there was no need to do it, like a Wigan tactic

Amor is the better player. Considering he's nowhere near the size of Walmsley or Masoe his yardage and workrate is phenomenal. Never thought Saints could replace Graham. Certainly never thought they would with - a BRITISH PLAYER, who was effectively thrown on the scrap heap.

Our kick tactic in that 1st half was to keep the ball in play and knacker out Saints.
It was visibly working until our daft mistakes when we had them on the ropes, put them in to score.

There pack was the difference and our lack of cohesion in the half's.

There are signs that with more games the half's will gel.

Give over. Wilkin can be his own worst enemy, I admit. But there was nothing in that play.

He didnt go out to hurt him, he was trying to put him on his back to control the ptb speed. Wigan are fond of the cannon ball

I didnt see any signs that the half back pairing was anything other than shocking tonight.

Give over, he picked up the leg stretched it while Greenwood knicked the ball and then let go, nothing in it

Well I may be alone here but I thought we beat ourselves.
We bombed 4 or 5 clear chances in that 1st half.
Saints didn't bomb any and scored off our mistakes.

Come on, duckie
I doubt even Bridge and O'Brien's parents share your optimism.
Our kicking game AGAIN (bar 2 or 3 occasions) was, at best poor.
So many times we kick straight to hands.
The only team that were getting knackered after kicks was US. We were returning kicks from our try line. Saints, from anywhere, as they didn't need to run anywhere.

Our kicking game remains a MAJOR problem
Bridge looks miles away from match fitness/sharpness.
O'Brien goes missing too many times (we had enough ball)

There's nothing inherently dangerous about picking up a players leg. It happens once every dozen tackles - usually because the defender is trying to re-orientate the tackled player to slow the play. If he's guilty - it's a technical infringement for messing about in the ptb. Not dirty play.

It's impossible to watch that clip and know for sure he's actively attacking the player's leg to injure. Well, maybe if you're a mind-reader. I am not.

Anyway, one plus point was Tony Smith's reaction to Hemmings' off mic outburst last week. Brilliant stuff!

What happened? Turned off as soon as Wilkin's face appeared.

I just wish we would kick low more often, get the ball kicking up off the turf. Harder to deal with than a ball just punted up into the gods.

Lefty that game was there for the taking.
We got beat 30-24 and bombed half a dozen chances and some harsh looking ref calls against us too.

There is scope for a lot of improvement in us that is the positive from tonight's disappointment.

Missed it what did he say? Turned it off when wilkin appeared

What happened to the rule on shoulder charges has it gone?

You've virtually repeated what I said on Page 4

I didn't see any signs (or potential signs) of our half-backs gelling
Most of the time, they looked like they'd never met.

you must find that concerning.

Bill asked him a question and Tony replied by saying "Yes Bill, yes to everything, I agree with everything you say" with a big smile on his face.
Someone obviously told him about Eddie's slip up last week!

Totally agree with this post, bridge should not play if not fit as they looked like it was the first time they had ever been on a pitch together.

Perhaps Warrington could have lucked out and taken their chances. But the truth is - Saints can just as easily say "We had complete midfield dominance: Warrington were there for a pasting".

The problem is a fundamental one. Until Warrington can compete - especially through the props (aside from a cheeky dummy and score - what input did Warrington's primary yardage gainers have on the game?) - taking that extra step to GF winners will be difficult.

I'd agree with most of the sentiment here, best team won and lack of composure and poor kicking game did for us big style. I also thought we looked lethargic at the PTB and surrended the speed of the ruck all to easily to Saints, with the effect that Clark was largely nullified. With Roby benched and unfit we should have had a beano.

But. Can someone, anyone, please explain to me why Travis Burns was not sin-binned on either of the two occasions he committed the most blatant, absurd, professional fouls I've seen in some time. I can only assume Mrs Thaler confiscated Ben's yellow card to write tomorrow's shopping list on. Least she'll put it to some use.

Right which one of you is tony smith on here then?