I was looking forward to Powell coming in as much as anyone and supportive of the squad needing overhauling, but this is shambolic and it is scandalous how the heart is getting ripped out of the club.
The king has no new clothes he is in the altogether but and had been truly found out.
Perhaps rather than believing that he had improved clubs we should have been looking at how the clubs went once he left! How many trophies did Leeds win once he’d gone? Where has the unfancied Lee Radford got Castleford to after Powell left not withstanding the fact that Powell brought his leaders with him.
The bad apples may have gone, but they have been replaced with lemons.

I have said all season give him next season but NO not anymore he as to go and all of the back room it needs a clean sweep.

I've been a pretty consistent supporter of Powell. I think the club has been in a mess long before he rocked up and was desperately in need of radical overhaul. My expectation for him this season was to steadily root out the slackers and to at some point (certainly by now) to be showing signs of an improvement for future success. The only time when I believed pressure should be put on his role was if we were showing genuine signs of being relegated.

Sadly, I now think we have reached that point. For whatever reason, it just isn't happening. I don't believe he has become a bad coach overnight, I'm just beginning to suspect that he is the right man in the right place, but unfortunately at the wrong time.

I honestly think any coach would have struggled with our squad this season - there is a demise there that has been set in for quite a while (probably September 2019 onwards) and it has been allowed to fester to the point where we have been this season - Powell rightly saw that demise, but his solution has been perhaps just too radical. Right idea, wrong method of carrying it out.

So, what do we do now? Part of me wants us to hold our nerve and let him ride it out, but at some point I think we need at least one more win and just how late do we want to leave it if that win isn't forthcoming?

There is then the question of who to bring in?.. the obvious is to go back to Tony Smith, but is that a short term measure to keep us up, or do we bring him back for the long term?

I'm just rambling now, but it really is a situation where its difficult to be certain what the right thing is to do. It's just so frustrating that a club with so many resources at his disposal, which gives them such an advantage over many of its rivals, can make such a mess of how it is managed.

Interested outsider looking in ... I'll pose a question ... If the current crop of players are not buying in to the Powell philosophy, why the hell would the likes of Dufty, Kasiano, McGuire, Vaughan be any more likely to?

Unfortunately you can't flick a switch and change the culture - it takes time - especially after years of complacency. Hopefully a positive cultural change will have been established by the start of next season.

Jesus, when did you last post on here?

When he was appointed I said he needed time and backing fully, and if I was proved wrong then so be it. After the defeats earlier in the season I was still proudly backing him, the culture needed changing I thought, its all on the players and their attitudes.

I'd resigned myself to this year being the old cliched "transition" year, where we'd just make the play offs or thereabouts, but with the group we had ,and Powells own additions made , it would be clear progress was being made while at the same time lacking consistency to challenge for silverware.

But whats been served up, I think I've finally cracked. To say I'm fully backing him now would be me just saving face. It simply is atrocious what we have become this year. We were all for a rebuild, but this load of garbage week after week? Even with new additions next year, would he genuinely turn it around? I don't think so anymore, it just ain't working. There aren't any green shoots of improvement, its just getting worse.

Despite what others say, I do think we are seriously in the relegation mire. Tonight was the game where a two points by any means necessary would have just about saw us home. Our fixtures from here on in are grim, one of them being Toulouse at which I'm utterly dreading.

Anyway, Come on The Wire

Happy clappers still there queuing for selfies and autographs and people were getting called an embarrassment if they dared question the performance.

I just walked on by as I don’t think they were even worth a boo.

Possibly, but the players I mentioned appear to have their own view on things (I'm being polite) ... Will Powelly be able to get them 'on side' ... not convinced tbh

Anybody?

No idea. With the massive upheaval, it's hard to tell. I would have expected though a kick on after the Cats game and it's not happened, so serious questions have to be asked. A culture change such as this was never going to be straight forward. I didn't see the game, just listened to it on the radio, but it sounds like there were some poor individual errors which never helps. I thought he was the right man, he might well be if we stay up and he leads an upturn next season, but we'll never know if he goes.

I noticed this. I didn't walk on by, i just shook my head at them.

Ok so Powell wants rid of bad apples and wants leaders and winners. His main guys are the terrible Matautia and the abomination that is Oliver Holmes. A winner is distraught by loss….see Michael Monaghan being in a foul mood for a week after one. Holmes is a social media buffoon, backing up his atrocious displays with utter banalities after another embarrassing defeat. If this is the culture Powell wants then he has got it all wrong. His stubbornness not to see what a disaster Holmes and the ever frustrating ‘peanut’ are is damning.

It is clear the damage to any future playing atmosphere is already done. Has to go and now, Powell is a dreadful signing.

And Oliver Holmes was picked ahead of a future England captain tonight and Wrench replaced by a very mediocre SL player (who did his best in fairness).

Change the culture? These are his players now. Players he’s brought in himself, handed new contracts to, or committed to keeping at the club next season. Out of the most recent line ups, there’s only been around two or three players playing in the 17 who will be here next year.

All these supposed ‘bad eggs’ have gone. What’s the excuse for the likes of the undroppable Holmes and Mata’Utia who have been up there with some of the worst performers of the season?

How long does he hide behind this apparent ‘culture’ issue and we actually look at his failings in the coaching, tactical and selection departments?

Are we not in danger of being duped a little here and in actual fact our problems run a little deeper than just culture and Powell is actually culpable somewhere along the line as well?

You can have the worlds worst dressing room culture and attack and defend better than this. There are no more excuses - that whole disaster tonight was down to coaching and poor selections. He’s not just a bad coach he’s a stubborn one too, unless removed we will be relegated.

Cas seem to have got a LOT better since Powell left. Says it all really. The players are the same(bar the bad eggs that have been shown the door)so either price is a good coach or Powell is a bad one. Answers on a postcard to Mr. S. Middleton.

The only reason the culture is a problem is because Powell says it is!

The Emporer will no doubt pick out one of the young players as being at fault for tonight's miserable defeat, seems to be his modus operandi.

Feel sorry for Nicholson.....left a team 2nd in SL coz he couldn't get a game, then joins a team who will currently be delighted to simply stay in SL, and still can't get in the team.

wtf?

The INCESSANT inclusion of Holmes (and to a degree Currie) when we have Nicholson is just inept. How can you continue to pick someone who has been terrible for 16 games that he has played in? How? No coach in any team sport would be this stubborn surely? The worst he has received was to be dropped to the bench, that in itself is creating a rotten culture.

That's right, we've been excellent for many years and it only went wrong when Powell came in. We we're so unlucky in those 3 consecutive 1st round knockouts and myself personally, would pay money to see King come back so we can enjoy the thrilling punt on the 5th.

If Powell is the man for the long term, the silence from the club is letting him down hugely.

If the club was in such a shocking state, where this season has been justifiable, then the club should admit to the failings of those who came before Powell and those who appointed and oversaw those failings.

That said, the excuses have ran out. The only legacy players tonight were Clark, Currie and Walker. Clark and Currie have consistently been picked to start. The rest are Powell’s men.

I so desperately want you to be right, as a fan of the club, and I hope Powell is the mastermind that you have in your head. Although, I can sense even you are running out of steam and excuses, now solely reaching for sarcasm.

If it is so bad, why have previous coaches not taken such action? I know some of the players that Powell is trying to move on are not bad apples. Time will be our judge.

You can be as sarcastic as you like, but we’ve gone from finishing third and having one of the best defences in the league, to being an absolute shambles and in a relegation scrap.

Underachievers or not these last few years, the regression in this team and this club this past twelve months is nothing short of a disgrace and whether you like it or not the coach of the team, who has full control of the team across the board, should be taking some, if not most of the responsibility for its performances.