Without the PnB specs on.

He wasn't saying how nice it was that Roby has the injury. It was nice to not have to deal with him in the Wire match. There is a very clear distinction.

On the subject of one man teams. You know that is utter rubbish about Briers. Last year we proved we can do well without him. There will be a transition as Briers is an absolutely class player (anyone who denies it is blinded by partisanship.) But, Monas, Brett and, to some extent, Myler all have an excellent influence on the team. We also have GOB coming through who is looking to be a new Briers and we can always pay a lil extra if we need to. There will be no sts-like shutdown after the talent leaves (hopefully).

This statement from you is especially disturbing and confusing when we have seen this year that, without Roby, Saints stutter. On opening day of the season, without Roby, Wigan make you look like amateurs. This has been the case several times this year (including last night) You can preach about lomaskell as much as you want. Without Roby, Saints really really struggle.

You sometimes post some really good balanced stuff, but that is rubbish. Stop being so sensitive or you'll end up saying things that patently aren't true.

Are you saying that fans have a tendancy to be one eyed, emotional reactionists??????



Now there is an epiphany worthy of note.

No there will always be Tomkins vs Eastmond sort of threads or Challenge cup or Super league threads. Which is a possibly worthwhile debate.

Also, there will always be people who claim that Charnley is better than Matt King (or something) which is stupid and petty.

I was just saying this thread has been derailed for no reason. No one is happy that anyone is injured (especially when Roby is such a class act for England) people need to stop being sensitive and saying things that aren't true.

indeed, derailed, less of the bickering now.

(respectful) injury talk from this point on now folks.

I would have loved Roby to play (he still might). AS people have said, want to beat Sts without the excuse of the injury crisis.
Although they can't really use that.

I think we do well to beat sts (with the injuries we have), but this Roby news has made it more possible.

I couldn't care less if they played there U20's and moaned for years over their 'injuiry crisis' as long as we win and get the two points.

I think you must be confusing Roby with someone else. He has played in every game this season so far. Our game against Bradford on Sunday is when we find out whether we stutter without him (assuming he has actually fractured his eye socket and assuming he is unable to play as a result). Roby has been the glue sticking us together in some matches due to either the number out injured or the experience missing (for example: we haven't had Pryce playing all season and he's our experienced halfback). However, we will have Perry back from his ban on Sunday plus what will be the strongest team we have fielded since the first match of the season when we only had Perry and Pryce missing. It will be interesting to see if Simmons can continue his magic in blending yet another version of our team together to fill the gap that is bound to be left by the absence of Roby. We will certainly find out if we are now a one-man team.

you're right to pick up on what I said. I was referring to the fact that, as i mentioned, Roby has been the guy sts have looked to when the rest of the team isn't firing. It happened on the first match of the season and the one this weekend. Additionally, when Roby has had a bit of a poo game and isn't affecting the play, saints have lost. The form of Sts is really on Roby now. I may argue that the emphasis is on Roby more than K.F.C; as there was a triangle of dominance from sts when cunnigham was king.)

We will see what Sts pull out against Bradford, like you say. I certainly don't follow Sts as much as you do, so I can't speak for all the matches.

My point basically was that the comment can't be made that Wire are reliant on Briers, from a sts fan; when Roby has been carrying Sts a good distance this year. There have been times when Lee has played poorly and Monas or Brett has taken a great deal of responsibilty. However, as I said, when Roby is a bit off, Sts stutter.

I am sure this will change when Pryce is back as he has been great and really forced a victory at the pie dome last year.

It'll be good to see how much influence lomaskell have on games after Pryce moves on. Then Roby will really be faced with pressure.

Roby is class and any team would miss him, I would be surprised if Saints do though. The way Saints have managed their squad this season (so far) has been brilliant. They have put in some top performances.

He got the injury in the frst half, then played the whole of the 2nd half with it. Wouldn't be surprised if he did play next week.

Is this a projected crystal ball statement, if not then you are talking garbage. Roby has only missed half a game this season.
Whats interesting is that wire are on form and playing full revs, whilst saints have been ticking over with almost half a squad......yet are just 2 pts behind.

What a load of drama over virtually nothing... I've just watched the game back and roby didn't seem to be in any discomfort at all.

Wouldn't be supirised if he played with a mask on and didn't miss any games.

roby wont play next week but i think we will see him against the pies

While Roby has carried us on occasion, when they have been fit he has been ably supported by Wello and Wilkin. It is when they have been absent that the load has fallen heavily on Roby, and only then because invariably our halves have been out as well. However, us Saints fans will find out just how accurate your point really is on Sunday, no doubt! (And I daren't even think of Wigan the following Friday ...)

I do think the point about Briers was valid under Cullen. It isn't now because Smith has enabled Warrington to play as a team. While Briers would clearly be missed if he was out injured, nowadays I think that would be because of what he brings to the team rather than being the glue that stuck the team together as he used to be.

You didn't see his bruised left eye? You must need glasses then. The doctor also said that air was coming out of it, which is apparently a sign of a fracture. However, we will no doubt find out at the usual press conference on Tuesday.

I didn't say i couldn't see he had a black eye... Of course I could see it. But he appeared to be in no discomfort and he played on for nearly the whole game without any issue.... I though half his head would have come off the way some of you lot were going on.

He is a rugby league player.... These things happen... Stop making out it's something terrible.... He probably won't miss more than a couple of games, if that.

I told my wife about Roby and him playing on and bigged him up "wouldn't get footballers doing that" i proudly said.

"well he's d--khead then isn't he" was the wife's reply

she then phones her dad a orthopedic doctor retired, "we'll he could have died if it his bone had splintered and gone somewhere it shouldn't have"

They just didn't get it

Well, in my view a fractured eye socket is a serious injury. If you think it is so trivial, would you like one?

Nice one.

You offering?

She's not a very classy lady if she is

I like it rough

There all rough in tellins

you did`nt take that attitude when cunningham smacked a wakey player doing damage to his eye socket..and what did cunningham get off the rfl sweet fa

Yes the will be air coming out of it, I did my eye socket a good fee years back and I had air coming from my eye. It's the build up of pressure from behind the eye.