good point

Warrington will win. Full stop and underlined in bold lettering.

I can't believe there is a 4 page thread on here about playing Saints.
We have beaten all the top teams recently including an easy win away to Saints.
What's the fuss about ?

It's this silly attitude that helped Saints keep the Hoodooo over us

WE ARE BETTER THAN THEM.

This is probably the easiest team in the top 5

If you lot play how we all know you can, Saints will be lucky to keep it within 30. Give them the ball and they can score plenty, but they get their numbers wrong in defence so much it's embarrassing.

are you suggesting the players are psychic or something?

The fans are confident with good reason. Wire have for two seasons now dominated their nearest rivals and we UNLUCKY to get knocked out the playoffs last year. On a side note, boy, would I hate to shell out a lot of good money to watch a fifth place dry bum the team I support at Old Trafford.

Good post... Let's face it, the only doubts we have are because of some so-called hoodoo that was the work of a Saints team, which bears no resemblance to the one we'll be playing next week.

If Saints had Cunningham, Long, Graham, Pryce, Sculthorpe etc playing, then I'd be very worried, but in reality they now have a side in which only ONE of their players would make our team and make us any better.

Yes, they have competent players, but apart from Roby they have nobody who should overly worry us - Of course its sport and they have a sporting chance, but it will take us having an off day for it to happen....Wire at their best, will beat Saints (and any other side in the league).

We have already won at the HJ this season and can do it again. Although we know what a big big task it will be.

With 9 GF's and 4 wins we know how to get to Old Trafford...unlike one or two other clubs.

Nine Grand Finals is a great achivement no questioning that at all !!!

But i still pi$$ myself laughing when i think to myself you have got beaten in the last five.....

We know our way to Wembley by the way unlike one or two other teams!!

Yes so do I it's the number 14 bus. But in the last few years you've won nowt, confidence is misplaced, only luck will get you there and you've used it all up.

9 grand finals is a tremendous record but losing the last 5 is not a record i would want..saints on there day can beat anyone but like a previous poster said without long cunningham etc they are no longer a team to worry about.looking forward to it next week and just hope the play off games are exciting and not a damp squib like some have been..

Would Wire fans list who they would prefer in week 3 if they got club call 1-7. Obviously if you got club call then you could not pick Catalan, but I'll let that slide.

From a Saints point of view if we got club call (which is possible but unlikely)

1. Giants, 2. Wakey, 3. Hull, 4. Rhino's, 5. Wigan, 6. Wire, 7. Catalan

Too many ifs and buts to be able to take the question 100% seriously, but if we were to beat Saints convincingly next week and Saints were one of the 2 choices at clubcall, then it would be obvious to take on Saints again, because of the psychological advantage.

You would honestly prefer to play ourselves at your place ahead of Catalan?

In answer to the question though I would simply go off the league finishing position, ie Wakey, Hudds, Hull, Leeds/Catalan, Catalan/Leeds, Saints, Wigan.

I most certainly would, for a combination of reasons. Although Warrington beat Saints at Langtree park the reverse fixture showed that we can beat Wire also.

If we are not playing Catalans in the semi, then that means Catalan would more than likely be playing Wigan or Wire. Which would mean it could be possible to not have to play another derby if we got through to a final.

I think Catalan are a team that can turn it on and burn almost anyone on their day.

I've forgot the exact wins for Saints against wire since super League began , but it's
about 30 - 5 for Saints .
I just know we will turn you over again this Saturday , you just cannot get the
Saints monkey off your backs !
And yes , I would pick to play warrington in a club call !

....at the Saints fan doing an impression of a Liverpool fan, as he recalls the good old days!!

On a more relevant note, in the last four meetings, its 3-1 to Wire, and in the last 4 seasons, it presently stands Wire 3 trophies, Saints fook all, so if we are trying to indulge in some sort of psychological claptrap, then have that one!!...



Yes, Saints once had a top class team, which was often too good and powerful for Wire, but your present side is an absolute shadow of that side, so your statisitics are totally irrelevent to this Saturday.

How about this statistic !
Saints beat you at the H jones this year !!!

....Oh dear, you don't really get it, do you???...

Ah, but we where not even half the team form wise when you beat us at our place, and the points difference in that game wasn't massive.

NEVER WRITE OFF THE SAINTS... except for 2012, you can write them off for 2012.

No you don't get it






This "sub standard " Saints team beat you this season !

And will repeat this again this Saturday







You will NEVER be Champions







The Saints Hoo Doo will continue

How does it continue when it's gone?

Is that when you beat Saints at the HJ this season !

By this logic, I assume that when we beat Saints at Wilderspool in 2001, you considered that a 'hoodoo' and anticipated a collapse of the mighty Saints team and a Wire grand final victory?



Edit - to get on topic, I'm glad we have Saints. Obviously you can't write them off, same as anyone else in the top 5, but of those five teams Saints is the team I am happiest playing at the moment. I'd order the best to worst teams to choose from as:

1. Wakefield, 2. Hull FC, 3. Huddersfield, 4. Saints, 5. Catalans, 6. Wigan, 7. Leeds

Wigan and Leeds are close at the top two I would least like to play, but Leeds edge it for me - they were much closer to us at Wembley than Wigan were a few weeks ago.

Can't be bothered reading through or indeed searching at all, but somebody on our board mentioned Westwood will be missing for you. Is that right, what's he done?