Awful fare from two poor sides today unfortunately.

Feel for Hayes, that didn't look good.

The tackling for Salford's 1st try was pathetic kids could do better..we got what we deserved.. Huddersfield will be hoping this wire team turn up for the semi final

We made their pack look really good, even after they lost Vuniyayawa.
We definately need another big prop, not a second rower/prop but an out and out Prop.
The whole team just looked Tired to me, everything was slower and sloppier with no aggression this week.
Gutted for hayes, looks like his season is over with a snapped ankle

I’m no doctor but looking at the footage(no pun intended) I’m guessing at least a year, it looked really bad.

Lindop hobbled off injured in a game about a month ago. I have not seen him in any of the Academy/Reserves games since then, so I assume he is still injured?

Not heard anything about Lynch since he was loaned-out to North Wales Crusaders for a season long loan.

I would have preferred to see Kai Taylor-Wray make his debut on the wing, instead of Russell.

Russell just isn`t Super League standard and should be playing in the Championship.

Yeah i like Russell and i've always thought he was a decent utility squad player, dependable and solid. But he he had an absolutely stinker yesterday, really really bad, but the squad as a whole weren't great, hopefully just one of those off games.

Last year we entered a slump after a tough away win in the cup and never recovered (4 wins from 17 remaining games).

Be interesting to see if Sam can get us back to our best.

The backs always look poor when the pack is second best…

Has Vaughan been found out?
Do Burgess and Vaughan get along?
Is there jealousy that 3 years ago Burgess was an equal to Vaughan, and now he’s his boss?
Is Vaughan half the player for Burgess?

There’s something not right with Vaughan, no idea what but he’s not himself at all.

The pack was weirdly poor yesterday and the interchanges seemed odd to me.

Yes I think that the pack was poor as was the team in general.

Salford deserved the points IMO because they played for and got the game they wanted they effectively did to us what we did to Saints recently.

The game wasn't a forward game at all as Salford wanted, it was scruffy and scrapy as they wanted it, and most importantly the game played out wide where they had the advantage with Lafai and Macdonald

Vaughan's stats show he was head and shoulders our most effective prop forward with 80m.

Need to be looking at Philbin and Bullock who managed 26.

All the very best to Hayes who looks to have a giant heart for such a small lad.
We had someone similar in Robbie Burrow.
Hope the lad makes a full recovery as it looked a very bad injury.

O don't think there's much to "find out" with Vaughan. He's hard as nails, is a big unit and he's gonna drive his legs after collision. No fancy trickery with him, he's just a bloody good
prop forward.

Off game for the team, stats say Vaughan was making meters as he does best. He missed 2 games from a ban and then didn't come straight back into the team once he'd served it because we were playing well.

I don't get this rubber ... what's this Vaughan hate thing? It just doesn't make sense.
Mind you I was very impressed with Ormondroyd, Lafai & Macdonald. Ormondroyd & Lafai are aged 32 but Macdonald is 20 and might change our back play a bit.

McDonald will be 30 in a couple of weeks time Smiffy.

We've lost to a decent Salford team as quite a few teams will were up there in top 4 and in semi final of challenge cup which is better than what I expected hopefully a a win against hull Friday

I’m asking the questions Smithy27 because he isn’t hitting to mark as he was last season.
Burgess said something that raises an eyebrow.

He said Harrison is his first pick.
I may be reading in to it, but Vaughan isn’t giving us 100% imo, because if he was, Burgess wouldn’t be saying things like that.

No player is bigger than our club, and if I think someone is holding something back, I’ll question their accountability.

The stats may show him favourable as wires71 said, but being top meter maker at 80m for eg, and you know he could be a 100m+, then he’s holding back for some reason.

Perhaps I am over playing it, but I’ve seen more from him.

Thanks. I thought it seemed a bit strange when I wrote it ...duff info. Good job I didn't send him a birthday card, I suppose we thought Rodrick Tai would give us the power we wanted at centre. Certainly Salford centres are both a real threat.

Saw Rodrick Tai play in the Reserves at Victoria Park before the Leigh home game.

He certainly has a lot of power as do most players from Papua New Guinea.

His defensive reads and positioning were poor in that game,

Think there’s a bit too much being read into these little sound bites offed up by Burgess. King was being hung from the town hall gates a few weeks ago because according to some posters he was refusing to play. But has come back in and started since then. Now there’s a Vaughan issue because Harrison received some praise for his form, despite Vaughan having earned his starting spot back.

Vaughan is doing fine, yes not as dominant as we would like, but sometimes we won’t have it our own way. Of the forwards, only Walker topped him on meters. Largely due to the break he made. If he grounds that ball and wins it, this conversation never happens.

Vaughan has clocked up over 1000m @ 8.68m average gain this season and that's with missing games.

Harrison 907m @ 7.43m.

Not sure what else you want from him?

If vaughan had scored that try duckie i doubt you'd be saying anything other than he's great, he's been brilliant as usual so far this year.

I told Vaughan not to use ABBA Cars

I always thought this. Let's hope Sam doesn't clam up & start saying virtually nothing.

Lose on Friday and the wheels have def come off as that’s the worst Hull side I’ve seen in twenty years plus.