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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"The difference here is that =#FF0000we share our yards around, all you have proved here is that you were overly reliant on him to get you up the pitch.... which makes this departure even more painful for your weakened / depleted/lightweight pack.'"
Really?
Westwood would have been down in 7th place at Wigan just ahead of Liam Farrell. In fact Wigans top 16 meters makers all made more than their Wire counterparts |
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Charnley and Richards are try machines.'"
Not without decent centres or half backs they won't be ! |
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And what does that mean then? In the real world I mean.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Really?
Westwood would have been down in 7th place at Wigan just ahead of Liam Farrell. In fact Wigans top 16 meters makers all made more than their Wire counterparts'"
That would make Westwood rubbish then i take it ?
If only he played in a team like Wigan. He'd realise his true potential and win trophies and that. |
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Really?
Westwood would have been down in 7th place at Wigan just ahead of Liam Farrell. In fact Wigans top 16 meters makers all made more than their Wire counterparts'"
Never mind, all our squad members won more Challenge Cups and played in more Grand Finals in 2012 that their Wigan counterparts. |
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Really?
Westwood would have been down in 7th place at Wigan just ahead of Liam Farrell. In fact Wigans top 16 meters makers all made more than their Wire counterparts'"
those stats must look real fine in your trophy cabinet...enjoy!
I'd like to know what the head to head stats look like....anyone? |
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Quote ="Oxford Exile"those stats must look real fine in your trophy cabinet...enjoy!
I'd like to know what the head to head stats look like....anyone?'"
Always willing to help.
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Quote ="Oxford Exile"those stats must look real fine in your trophy cabinet...enjoy!
I'd like to know what the head to head stats look like....anyone?'"
Always willing to help.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery" In fact Wigans top 16 meters makers all made more than their Wire counterparts'"
That would be really impressive if you hadn't just made it up (unless you are talking about electric or gas meters).
For example which of your centres made more than the 2,462m of Ryan Atkins or with Lima being the only Wigan prop to make more metres than Hill, Morley and Wood who are their Wigan counterparts?
Also Mike Cooper who played loose last year made more than O'Loughlin. |
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Really?
Westwood would have been down in 7th place at Wigan just ahead of Liam Farrell. In fact Wigans top 16 meters makers all made more than their Wire counterparts'"
That must be why Westwood got in the SL dream team then.
I bet he dreams of being able to make yards like Farrell.
Maybe next season, if he plays well, he can also aim for a transfer to super leagues bottom club  |
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What was wrong with the way "Super League" used to do the stats. Why did they change?
The tables from last years stats make no sense to me.
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What was wrong with the way "Super League" used to do the stats. Why did they change?
The tables from last years stats make no sense to me.
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Hock to Wire via Widnes. Don't bet against it!
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"loved this bit
[iThe Cheshire outfit – bankrolled by haulage tycoon Steve O’Connor – also have cash to spend as they attempt to establish themselves among the competition’s top clubs.
But other outfits have sniffed around[/i'"
He'll be a Wire. Wigan won't sell him directly, we'll get him the same way Saints got Long via Widnes. |
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"That would be really impressive if you hadn't just made it up (unless you are talking about electric or gas meters).
For example which of your centres made more than the 2,462m of Ryan Atkins or with Lima being the only Wigan prop to make more metres than Hill, Morley and Wood who are their Wigan counterparts?
Also Mike Cooper who played loose last year made more than O'Loughlin.'"
You know exactly what I meant. Wigans top 16 metre makers v Wire top metre makers. |
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| Quote ="Crosfielder"He'll be a Wire. Wigan won't sell him directly, we'll get him the same way Saints got Long via Widnes.'"
Completely different scenario
Wigan still hold his registration so he contracted to them until 2015, so if Wire want to sign him they will have to pay Wigan a transfer fee.
Anyway he's far to young for Wire, so maybe 2015 would suit. |
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You know exactly what I meant. Wigans top 16 metre makers v Wire top metre makers.'"
Great, How many trophies or finals did you get too last year?
Answer's on a postcard and correctly answer this question right for a bonus point, why should of Bridge been sent off against Huddersfield? |
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| Quote ="Who are ya!!"Great, How many trophies or finals did you get too last year?
Answer's on a postcard and correctly answer this question right for a bonus point, why should of Bridge been sent off against Huddersfield?'"
One trophy same as Wire, strangely the same one Wire won in 2011. |
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"One trophy same as Wire, strangely the same one Wire won in 2011.'"
Funny that, as most Wiganers didn't see the LLS as a trophy, 16 months ago.
Looks like Brian has missed out on his bonus point, as he failed to answer the question regarding Chris Bridge.
At least the contestants on Mastermind had the good manners to say "PASS" to Magnusson/Anderson/Humphrys, when they couldn't answer the question. |
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God, this is terrible banter.
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The loss of Hock will be as beneficial to Wigan, as the gain will be to Widnes.
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Forgive me but why has Hock fallen out of favour at Wigan?
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| Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"Forgive me but why has Hock fallen out of favour at Wigan?'"
Have a peep at the Wakey board. They have a very interesting thread running on the reasons.
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Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"Forgive me but why has Hock fallen out of favour at Wigan?'"
Have you seen Ian Lenegan's comments in the press release. I've never seen a Chairman be so explicit:
www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... 869&type=1
- Twice since his ban Hock had threatened to leave and Wigan had increased his contract to keep him.
- He put in a request to go to Australia for a change of competition and social environment and Wigan agreed to that providing a financially beneficial approach came in to Wigan.
- Eventually good offers came in but now Hock doesn't want to go to Australia
- He is not happy about having his no.12 jersey removed
- He refused to turn up to pre-season training or rehab
- He has made it clear to the Chairman he is refusing to play for Wigan
- A line in the sand has to be drawn, Wigan would not let him go to a direct rival so they are sending him to Widnes
What a mess.
Even when Gleeson left, Lenegan did not air all Wigan's dirty laundry in public. I reckon Lenegan is really peed off that Hock has taken the mick out of them and has just vented in an official press release.
That is serious disrespect for the cherry and white jersey. Hock is now going to be hated by Wiganers forever and has basically erased his place in Wigan history. |
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Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"Forgive me but why has Hock fallen out of favour at Wigan?'"
Have you seen Ian Lenegan's comments in the press release. I've never seen a Chairman be so explicit:
www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... 869&type=1
- Twice since his ban Hock had threatened to leave and Wigan had increased his contract to keep him.
- He put in a request to go to Australia for a change of competition and social environment and Wigan agreed to that providing a financially beneficial approach came in to Wigan.
- Eventually good offers came in but now Hock doesn't want to go to Australia
- He is not happy about having his no.12 jersey removed
- He refused to turn up to pre-season training or rehab
- He has made it clear to the Chairman he is refusing to play for Wigan
- A line in the sand has to be drawn, Wigan would not let him go to a direct rival so they are sending him to Widnes
What a mess.
Even when Gleeson left, Lenegan did not air all Wigan's dirty laundry in public. I reckon Lenegan is really peed off that Hock has taken the mick out of them and has just vented in an official press release.
That is serious disrespect for the cherry and white jersey. Hock is now going to be hated by Wiganers forever and has basically erased his place in Wigan history. | |
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You know exactly what I meant. Wigans top 16 metre makers v Wire top metre makers.'"
What as in 1st v 1st, 2nd v 2nd because that isn't right as that would put for example Farrell with 1,908 against Monaghan with 1,945.
So what are you on about?
As for comparison between Hock and Westwood then you have to take in account how many games each played. According to the Superleague site Hock play 25 and Westwood 18 which mean Westwood's stats per game for metres and tackles are way above Hock's.
Anyway Hock is a good signing for Widnes and a further weakening of the Wigan squad. Funny you mention Warrington's aged players above. Last year you reckoned Warrington would have to go through major recruitment this year whilst Wigan's squad was going to be consistent. Funny how things have turned out isn't it? |
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The Wigan press release just confirms what most people have always suspected - Hock's a nasty piece of work on and off the pitch, doesn't know the meaning of the word loyalty and has no respect his teammates, the fans or the club that pays his wages.
I'm not a huge fan of Lenegan or Shaun Wane but I think they've handled this very well and shown Hock up for what he is.
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