We've no aggression
We've no nouse
We've no line defence

Over to you Powelly

That pack is a disgrace, no ideas, no go-forward. But everyone knew this (expect the club obviously)

Certainly no lack of effort, but the amount of basic things we do badly - and consistently badly - is very worrying.

I can't believe no-one has mentioned Matautia- the bloke has been rank average since he signed and tonight he absolutely stunk the place out. Get Wrench in there.

One or both of the half-backs need dropping, get Longstaff in and lets at least give Butler a chance to be rubbish - I'm bored of Philbin, Hughes, Holmes and J Clark hogging the rotten tomatoes.

Everything happened on the first three tackles. We either Kicked early Knocked on Got caught offside Got in the way Looked clueless Terry-Thomas sums it up best youtu.be/1oU_HFZ2Tr0

Everything happened on the first three tackles. We either Kicked early Knocked on Got caught offside Got in the way Looked clueless Terry-Thomas sums it up best youtu.be/1oU_HFZ2Tr0

Powell was involved in player recruitment early doors, so how is the mess your in now not down to him?? Your marquee players are stealing a living and your pack wouldn't stand up in the Championship.

Bar our efforts in the first 20 minutes (which is what you'd expect in a local derby), that was as bad as ANY "performance" under Price.

Now's the time for Powell to start earning his money

We've scraped a win against the worst Leeds side in 40 years
A side coached by Lee flipping Radford
and the SL's new Leigh.

Buck your ideas up, one and all.

The honeymoon is well and truly over

Widdop has been shocking, two weeks in a row

Widdop of season #1 again - anonymous, weak in defence and ineffective. Williams has still to convince me but one of them needs dropping to give Riley Dean a chance.

I'd have said anonymous.
The Invisible Man offers more.
At least Williams takes on the opposition's line. He's just not very good at it.

Widdop might as well have brought a book along with him

Genuinely, what was you really expecting?

The last 2 games, especially tonight, were as predictable as could be. This Saints side is a 3 times champion and the best drilled team in the league by a mile - we are a side in the infancy of its 'project'. It was always going to get messy.

Tonight wasn't good at all, but let's be honest, there is going to be a few more moments like this in the next year or so and Powell needs to be given time and patience to try and sort it out.

No doubt there will be players deemed surplus to requirement along the way, but we surely knew that was always going to be the case?

We are massively missing someone calling the plays on the pitch, highlighted by Walker just throwing the ball twice into the wrong player, the one to Philbin I saw Widdop in the background just throwing his arms up in the air. Pointless him or Williams should be calling the plays it’s why we are crap in final 20 no one steps up.

Come on!!!
These are highly paid people, with International caps, marquee contracts and long careers. I'd expect a better outcome from a 16 year old YTS lad on his first day.

As for last week, we faced a side who have a dreadful record at our ground, and were missing 2 of their most influential players. I expected a win.

I've said all week, keep this under 30, and we've done ok. A small victory in itself

Lots of the players (including Widdop of the marquees) were already under contract before powell signed with us. Of the players whose contracts were up last year he should have re-signed hill. J Clark has looked alright so far but poor tonight and dropped last week so he's the only real question mark.

I don't want to see any contract extensions this season except maybe Ratchford for a season to cover Dean in the halves. We need fresh blood, we need 2 quality props.

Said it before. The problem with two marquee half backs is they are both waiting for the other to take the lead.

Agree with you, these 5 games have highlighted the work that needs to be done, this season for Powell is about him giving us something worth watching but looking at it I think some of these players are already near the exit.

Here here never been a fan of widdop..big money earned giving sod all back get rid.. and the same apply to you Williams

A genuinely hard prop, a mouthy half, an out the back centre, a captain who will strike fear into OUR players and inspire by performance.

Absolutely this, 2022 season is a free hit from me, I just want to enjoy watching my team again. Sadly this may be another season to write off.

Good post. Tonight showed the gulf in class and Saints had another gear or two which they didnt need. I'm right behind Powell but he has a massive project. We have 2 marquees that are not delivering, a pack that is not fit for purpose, and a number of players on contracts that we are stuck with which Powell would not have signed. We also have some players who think they are better than they are. In truth every Saints player was better than his opposite number tonight.

But we aren't a great side, not even a particularly good one right now. Haven't been for quite a long while and we have just played the 2 best sides in the league for the last 12 months. If anything it's a good thing we have had them this early, as it gives Powell a good idea of where we truly stand and hopefully he can make the adjustments needed - That is where is challenge lies this season. Sorting out the dead wood, improving those with some potential and hopefully, by August/September, showing some progress towards being a half decent side.

Hope whizzy rascal drives off with the ball next week so we don’t have to play

I'll judge Powell this year in whether he renews Hughes contract. That is the litmus test. Everything else, he's inherited, bar Pete and Oliver.

Another one escaping critism on here is Toby king..since he signed is over inflated contract he's done naff all..buck up or buck off

I don't disagree with a word of this post, DSM, but the elephant in this particular room is the expression "dead wood". We all know who they are. Some of them got their contracts extended, while Chris Hill was given leverage to leave a club he's served very well, for over a decade. True, his best days are behind him, but we're left with a pack of second rowers, with all the strength of an astronaut's fart.
We've lurched from problem to problem at half back since Briers' retirement. Our recruitment STINKS, and some of the blame lies with Powell.

It's going to be a long season. At this rate, I can't see us being involved come late September