It's all on the attitude and yards being gained in the forwards, as our pack has not been strengthened.

It has though, kibula can't be any worse than Tasi and latu is a big unit. Westwood was past his best and hardly played for us and Tasi was crap and hardly played. We have strengthened the pack.

OT I disagree. We've just rearranged some squad players.

BMM has to start as far a Im concerned.
Just look at what he did for Tonga when he started.
He's the type of player that needs minutes on the pitch.
I don't like him being used solely as a battering ram.
Him and Currie in the 2nd row.

BMM and Burrell in second row, currie to 13.tgats what I'd like to see. I really want to see currie moving the ball about again this year. He needs to do what made him so good in the first place, forget what bennett told him about respecting the ball because he has gone now and it's sent currie backwards.

If Currie is to be back to his best, he is at his most lethal out wide. Agree on BMM, he needs to be playing 60 mins a week at 2nd row.

In that case why make a tackle at all in a friendly, it was no different than any other tackle. Check out the Salford 2nd try, he plainly backs out of it.

Excited to see this Ashton kid. I think he could be the breakout star of next season. It could well be that Widdop getting injured is a blessing for Warrington as I doubt you'd have played Ashton if he was fit.

As a Saints fan I'm obviously hoping he has a major deficiency like Kevin Penny had that gave him enormous comedy value, but as a fan of the sport we need more stars in the game and hopefully he becomes one.

The positives from the Salford game are mostly related to the players on the periphery (Ashton, Burrell, Walker and to an extent Johnson). Together with the signing of Latu things are looking a little more positive.

We can only hope that the deficiencies in the style of play are being addressed (there was little evidence last Thursday). Playing Ratchford at halfback, in the absence of Widdop, rather than Patton is a step in the right direction.

Getting a defensive structure to complete that tackle is very different than throwing yourself into a desperate tackle and heightened unnecessary risk.

Quote ="rubber duckie"Getting a defensive structure to complete that tackle is very different than throwing yourself into a desperate tackle and heightened unnecessary risk.'" https://warringtonwolves.com/extended-h ... v-salford/ 6 mins 50 seconds in. Ashton busts a gut to make a tackle, Charnley does what he can, Gelling could have made quite a simple tackle but doesn’t. Nothing desperate about it, it was incredibly poor, friendly or not.

Quote ="rubber duckie"Getting a defensive structure to complete that tackle is very different than throwing yourself into a desperate tackle and heightened unnecessary risk.'" https://warringtonwolves.com/extended-h ... v-salford/ 6 mins 50 seconds in. Ashton busts a gut to make a tackle, Charnley does what he can, Gelling could have made quite a simple tackle but doesn’t. Nothing desperate about it, it was incredibly poor, friendly or not.

Pathetic. Either a make a point without a slur on us, or just don't bother.

Poor vs risk.

If you have full confidence and know you will win the game...what is the point of it?

Gelling cannot just stand there and watch. He was at fault for the first try by shooting out of the line when there was no need to.
Price will have words with him for giving two scores away in that manner.

If you have the ability...you can watch players pass you to score...this can be included in preparation.
You don't have to take an injury risk at every incident....you reassess risk on game importance and the differing strength of the opponent.
Being the biggest, fittest and holding nerve....WINS.

Wire were going to win vs Salford without getting out of 2nd gear...that's what they did. Job done with a turnstile open.

That is a display of a championship winning team....you remove those flaws and it would have been a cricket score...but did we need one?

Utter nonsense. But it's to be expected.

He's a Saints fan who has spent the off season on RedVee. Enough said.

He's an odious human like the majority from that capital of inbreeding.

To much information overloads insufficient memory.

If you're happy with players standing there and watching, that's fine. I'm not.

I agree with rubber duckie. In a pre season friendly players have to make judgements about how much they put their bodies on the line.

No doubt later in the season we will have some debate about whether it's better to 'peak at the right time' like Wigan/Leeds do, or to go all out every week to try to win the league leaders shield and risk burn out by the end.

But nobody will say "if only we'd had players putting their body on the line more in that pre season game we could have beaten Salford by a bigger margin".

However when duckie says that is a display of a championship winning team, he's getting a bit ahead of himself.

The scoreline was irrelevant, I've no problem with that. We had our strongest team on the pitch, and for me it was all about doing the basics well and getting some game time before Thursday. This wasn't an excuse for shooting out of the line, or watching an opponent run past you without making an effort to tackle them. Not the time for allowing bad habits when we've a week to the season starting.

I don't think Gelling is in the luxurious position of deciding not to tackle and give a try to the opposition. Im sure SP will have had more than a few words.
He has to earn his stripes. It's his 1st game for us for Gawd's sake.

Gelling comes with good and bad. The bad will cost us points so I think he needs to do more than decide not to tackle.

Sarcasm again?

I think you're right...the choice of word "display" wasn't ideal...I ought really to have said 'foundation'.