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| Quote ="Wires71"On an humorous aside does this view of balanced critique extend beyond sport?
e.g) Michael McIntyre
strengths : tidy hair, grandmas love him
weaknesses : absolute top hat devoid of humour.
Josef Mengele :
strengths : pioneering medical research
weaknesses : abhorrent psychopath, human rights abuser, not a real doctor.
Pol Pot
strengths : decisive, strong leadership, vision
weaknesses : a bit headstrong, liable to genocide, a bit of a lefty.
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That would be quite a front row...and you could safely say every other team's supporters would hate them!
Can't agree with you on McIntyre though. His ONLY positive is that he isn't Ricky Gervais.
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| Quote ="spacks grandad"might be an idea to approach Widnes about a swap -Russel for Joe Mellor?'"
No, no and no.
I'd rather Danny Walker, Olly Ashall or Matt Whitley.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"No, no and no.
I'd rather Danny Walker, Olly Ashall or Matt Whitley.'"
matt whitley? no thanks.
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"..are you serious or is this a wind up.if your serious i think you should give up the drink or drugs or both...hills a great forward end of russell is not a good winger end of but i wish him well in his future and thank the lad for his time at the wire...'" Nope not a wind up + I’ve never taken drugs + rarely drink.I just don’t see this guy as 1 of the best forwards in a Wire shirt.Hardly ever passes + for a guy his size he should be steamrolling at the opposition when he’s got the ball.Overrated but just my opinion.
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| Huddersfield aren't interested, Salford can't afford him and Widnes and Leigh are the 2 clubs who are asking questions.
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| Quote ="Alan Cargill"Huddersfield aren't interested, Salford can't afford him and Widnes and Leigh are the 2 clubs who are asking questions.'"
Be amazed if he went to Leigh,and who would want to got to Widnes lol.
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| Leigh is his probable destination they have the money and ambition to succeed, they are waiting for a call from the RFL to reinstate them to SL once Salford's money issues catch up with them.
If Salford sort out their issues we could swap him for Niall Evalds?
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"Leigh is his probable destination '"
No other SL team ready to snap him up? Funny that, he's had 95 games for us and GF experience and LLS winners medal.
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"Leigh is his probable destination they have the money and ambition to succeed, they are waiting for a call from the RFL to reinstate them to SL once Salford's money issues catch up with them.
If Salford sort out their issues we could swap him for Niall Evalds?'"
Welcome to 3 months ago we at Leigh are now likely to be going PT at the end of the season
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| Quote ="ColD"Welcome to 3 months ago
we at Leigh are now likely to be going PT at the end of the season
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Listening to Derek Beaumont on RL Backchat last week, it does look that way.
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"Leigh is his probable destination they have the money and ambition to succeed, =#FF0000they are waiting for a call from the RFL to reinstate them to SL once Salford's money issues catch up with them.
If Salford sort out their issues we could swap him for Niall Evalds?'"
I really hope so. It'll save us from getting relegated to League 1!!
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| Quote ="karetaker"Be amazed if he went to Leigh,and who would want to got to Widnes lol.'"
Joe Mellor!
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sport/wolves/16118631.Russell_set_to_leave_Wire/
Salford looking likely?
Wonder if this would free up some cap space for a new arrival?'"
I would guess that some, if not all his salary has been allocated to Josh. I don't think Matty Russell would have been on the big bucks.
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| If Russell was to head to Hudds after all, it could be a potential reunion with Tony Smith. I know Smith says he’s not interested in the game anymore but he likes a challenge. The Hudds squad isn’t that bad and Russell on the other wing to Jerry McG would suit Smith’s style i think?
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| Quote ="kirtonLindseyWolf"I would guess that some, if not all his salary has been allocated to Josh. I don't think Matty Russell would have been on the big bucks.'"
Nah, as SL clubs operate a ‘live cap’, Russell would have needed to be registered with another club with the contracts submitted to the RFL, before they would accept the Charnley signing.
I guess we kept a chunk of cap space free for Charnley, given we had been chasing him in October.
Russell had a new contract in 2015 or so didn’t he? At the time his stock would have been pretty high with Tony Smith, so a half decent contract...?
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Nah, as SL clubs operate a ‘live cap’, Russell would have needed to be registered with another club with the contracts submitted to the RFL, before they would accept the Charnley signing.
I guess we kept a chunk of cap space free for Charnley, given we had been chasing him in October.
Russell had a new contract in 2015 or so didn’t he? At the time his stock would have been pretty high with Tony Smith, so a half decent contract...?'"
Extended October 2016. 3 Year deal.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Nah, as SL clubs operate a ‘live cap’, Russell would have needed to be registered with another club with the contracts submitted to the RFL, before they would accept the Charnley signing.
I guess we kept a chunk of cap space free for Charnley, given we had been chasing him in October.
Russell had a new contract in 2015 or so didn’t he? At the time his stock would have been pretty high with Tony Smith, so a half decent contract...?'"
How about this. Charnley comes to us on 60K for the first year with a promise to increase that if more cap space becomes available. Warrington tell Matty Russell that he has no future at the club and to go find himself another club. Matty has 2 options, find another club or wait out his contract with Warrington which has 18 months to go. If reports be correct Matty is now going to Salford hence more cap space available when he comes off contract.
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| I guesss the marquee rule must be hard for some players to stomach as you’ll have a huge disparity in salary between most of the squad and then one or two players. Roberts must be on a fair whack as I believe Gold Coast we’re still able to offer him a huge deal, albeit not as first-choice half-back. Ill have to look back through the Aussie media articles at the time but I think I remember seeing stories about the titans offering him $1m AUD over a 3 year contract. If true (and if I’m not imagining it all) that means we are paying him a little bit more than that, a huge difference to most of the squad who will be well below 100k. Hopefully he’ll start to prove why he’s worth so much fairly soon, it’s clear the talent is there waiting to spark into life.
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| Quote ="easyWire"I guesss the marquee rule must be hard for some players to stomach as you’ll have a huge disparity in salary between most of the squad and then one or two players. '"
That should encourage them to become marquee players themselves by developing their core attributes, skills and value to a team. If they cannot reach the standard they can have no complaints.
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| Quote ="Wires71"That should encourage them to become marquee players themselves by developing their core attributes, skills and value to a team. If they cannot reach the standard they can have no complaints.'"
....if a player is on the lower spectrum of worth....to have a full cap and compliment or marquee ruling.....means you have a greater chance of winning big cup final bonuses.
Even at the upper level. Brown is apparently on less money at Warrington but he has the opportunity to dwarf the Widnes contact with the bonuses.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"....if a player is on the lower spectrum of worth....to have a full cap and compliment or marquee ruling.....means you have a greater chance of winning big cup final bonuses.
Even at the upper level. Brown is apparently on less money at Warrington but he has the opportunity to dwarf the Widnes contact with the bonuses.'"
Bonuses count on the salary cap. Prize money doesn't and that is not very much these days.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Bonuses count on the salary cap. Prize money doesn't and that is not very much these days.'"
Correct. On duckies point though - the "bigger" clubs will be able to provide more than just a salary. Accommodation, cars, nutrition (free meals) etc.
So you could earn less at Warrington due to it being a big pond, but still be substantially better off for it.
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| Quote ="Jimathay"Correct. On duckies point though - the "bigger" clubs will be able to provide more than just a salary. Accommodation, cars, nutrition (free meals) etc.
So you could earn less at Warrington due to it being a big pond, but still be substantially better off for it.'"
I assume that "benefits in kind" would count on the salary cap otherwise it would be too easy to circumvent.
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