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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"I totally agree with your first statement and believe that the broader the debate the better it is as if posters are turned off rather than responding then the whole 'place' becomes sterile.
I'd also expect a difference of opinion, not, to be called a clown, (Tiz Lad there really was no need for it) by someone that didn't agree with me.'"
Called him a clown because of his stupid one liner response. Don't care who he is or who his connections at the club are. I made a comment on the Goodwin potential signing and he came back with the banal comment, so he got an equally banal comment back
Facts are Warrington had never showed any interest in Goodwin till his Leigh contract became null and void due to their relegation and he then needed a club
A forum is meant to encourage differing opinions on both sides of the fence and anything in between, but anything that questions anything the club has done is openly frowned on and belittled, so that is not a forum in my book
Wasn't going to comment or post further, but seeing as you called me out I thought I'd do one Last post, so no real skin off my nose what he or you think. This is not a dummy spitting exercise, I'm bored with the majority that accept the performances of players and coaching staff of a club at full cap. Smith has dreadful succession planning and latterly quite awful recruitment and has mutually left a team that needs half a squad as well as a new coach, due to not having a succession plan
Will drop in now and again to see how happy the happy clappers are, and see how even more sterile this place has become but that's my lot
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouWolves"Again not an inspirational signing, better than Pomeroy...yes. Better than Hiku...no.
Another utility type signing who can play anywhere in the backs'"
If a recent Kiwi international centre who has played for top NRL clubs is not a good enough signing for us then I despair. Who would you sign - and try to be at least a little realistic given salary cap and persuading someone to move to the UK.
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| Quote ="Tiz Lad"Called him a clown because of his stupid one liner response. Don't care who he is or who his connections at the club are. I made a comment on the Goodwin potential signing and he came back with the banal comment, so he got an equally banal comment back
Facts are Warrington had never showed any interest in Goodwin till his Leigh contract became null and void due to their relegation and he then needed a club
A forum is meant to encourage differing opinions on both sides of the fence and anything in between, but anything that questions anything the club has done is openly frowned on and belittled, so that is not a forum in my book
Wasn't going to comment or post further, but seeing as you called me out I thought I'd do one Last post, so no real skin off my nose what he or you think. This is not a dummy spitting exercise, I'm bored with the majority that accept the performances of players and coaching staff of a club at full cap. Smith has dreadful succession planning and latterly quite awful recruitment and has mutually left a team that needs half a squad as well as a new coach, due to not having a succession plan
Will drop in now and again to see how happy the happy clappers are, and see how even more sterile this place has become but that's my lot'"
Well, good then. You seem to support diverse comment but throw cheap insults and 'openly frown on and belittle' (to quote your own words) those who disagree with you. Who says the majority are 'happy'? Maybe some of us are a little more patient and know the difficulties of 'fixing' the coach and squad issues. We are no less 100% Wire for all that and it would be respectful of you to accept that.
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| Quote ="Tiz Lad"Called him a clown because of his stupid one liner response. Don't care who he is or who his connections at the club are. I made a comment on the Goodwin potential signing and he came back with the banal comment, so he got an equally banal comment back
Facts are Warrington had never showed any interest in Goodwin till his Leigh contract became null and void due to their relegation and he then needed a club
A forum is meant to encourage differing opinions on both sides of the fence and anything in between, but anything that questions anything the club has done is openly frowned on and belittled, so that is not a forum in my book
Wasn't going to comment or post further, but seeing as you called me out I thought I'd do one Last post, so no real skin off my nose what he or you think. This is not a dummy spitting exercise, I'm bored with the majority that accept the performances of players and coaching staff of a club at full cap. Smith has dreadful succession planning and latterly quite awful recruitment and has mutually left a team that needs half a squad as well as a new coach, due to not having a succession plan
Will drop in now and again to see how happy the happy clappers are, and see how even more sterile this place has become but that's my lot'"
I can only think you are reading a very different forum to me.
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| Quote ="Tiz Lad"Called him a clown because of his stupid one liner response. Don't care who he is or who his connections at the club are. I made a comment on the Goodwin potential signing and he came back with the banal comment, so he got an equally banal comment back
Facts are Warrington had never showed any interest in Goodwin till his Leigh contract became null and void due to their relegation and he then needed a club
A forum is meant to encourage differing opinions on both sides of the fence and anything in between, but anything that questions anything the club has done is openly frowned on and belittled, so that is not a forum in my book
Wasn't going to comment or post further, but seeing as you called me out I thought I'd do one Last post, so no real skin off my nose what he or you think. This is not a dummy spitting exercise, I'm bored with the majority that accept the performances of players and coaching staff of a club at full cap. Smith has dreadful succession planning and latterly quite awful recruitment and has mutually left a team that needs half a squad as well as a new coach, due to not having a succession plan
Will drop in now and again to see how happy the happy clappers are, and see how even more sterile this place has become but that's my lot'"
I agree with you, re read my line about different opinions, but, I can not accept that this place, or people on it, belittle anything that questions the club per se. I find it's a place with people of different views, just how you want it according to your opening statement.
As far as belittling goes, try "happy clappers" and "clown" for starters...
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| I think we've become more interested in Godwin having lost Hiku rather than just because leigh went down. I think he'll be a great signing. I liken him to George Carmont at Wigan.
I think people are just really frustrated at the end of a really season. Understandably. Now it feels like we're in a bit of limbo land with no coach and no leadership. A bit of a rudderless ship. The club would be advised to calm the storm ASAP. Get the press release out about the new coach along with a clear statement of intent for the next season.
We all care about the club ultimately. Don't see the need to buycot the only forum which we as fans have to express our views with other Warrington supporters.
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| Quote ="Tiz Lad"
Facts are Warrington had never showed any interest in Goodwin till his Leigh contract became null and void due to their relegation and he then needed a club
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We have no idea whether we showed any interest in him before he signed for Leigh (and there seems to be some dispute over whether he signed for Leigh officially or not).
If we had showed interest, but Leigh offered an extra £50k (say) for him but we've now been able to revisit on our original terms based on Hiku leaving and Leigh being relegated - I don't see it like we are picking up relegation clubs scraps.
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| Goodwin is a cracking signing
He's tough a hard runner and great finisher
It was mentioned more than once by the nrl commentators that they are surprised he's leaving
I had this guy in my nrl fantasy team 2017and he clocked up 50 plus points in the latter games of the season
Easily as good as Hiku
As for Tyrone Roberts he has the potential to shine in super league let's wait and see
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| I've watched pretty much all of South Sydney's matches this season and Goodwin has been an impressive performer in a team having a hugely disappointing year.
He will prove to be a very good signing.
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| Kiwi International, NRL Centre...he will do.
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| Quote ="Tiz Lad"Called him a clown because of his stupid one liner response.
Facts are Warrington had never showed any interest in Goodwin till his Leigh contract became null and void due to their relegation and he then needed a club
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Unfortunately that's isn't a fact the club shares.
The clubs official line is they approached Leigh before then following Hiku's request to leave.
Not quite the same thing. I left the first sentence in between edit because is was amusing.
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| Quote ="Smith's Brolly"It's a mockery we regularly pay fees to buy players, are looking to use both marquee spots next season and on record as saying we've made regular offerings to many players to make them highest paid player in league. So much for painting team as a frugal ship.'"
Quote Beaumont said: “Once I was aware that Bryson had strong interest from a safe Super League club and would take that option should we get relegated I took the decision to accept a very strong and lucrative offer from Warrington.The 31-year-old, who has been known to feature at centre, wing and full-back, joins on a two-year deal from Leigh Centurions after a "substantial offer" was accepted. '"
Once again throwing the money around after Broomhead said money isn't everything.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"We have no idea whether we showed any interest in him before he signed for Leigh (and there seems to be some dispute over whether he signed for Leigh officially or not).
If we had showed interest, but Leigh offered an extra £50k (say) for him but we've now been able to revisit on our original terms based on Hiku leaving and Leigh being relegated - I don't see it like we are picking up relegation clubs scraps.'"
He was coming to you whether we got relegated or not, it was agreed before saturdays result.
He did not become free due to the result - you have paid Leigh a significant amount to get his services
Good for the player - far too good for champ rugby, and good for Leigh as we can use the fee and his cap space to strengthen across the team
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"I agree with you, re read my line about different opinions, but, I can not accept that this place, or people on it, belittle anything that questions the club per se. I find it's a place with people of different views, just how you want it according to your opening statement.
As far as belittling goes, try "happy clappers" and "clown" for starters...'"
For clarity is using the term "happy clappers" or "negs" or "Mr Happy" in breach of the AUP (genuine question).
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| On balance that is good "swap" with Leigh. Evans for Goodwin. No brainer.
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| Quote ="Smith's Brolly"Once again throwing the money around after Broomhead said money isn't everything.'"
Maybe the money was from the deal the club have received from Toronto for Joe Westerman.
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| Quote ="Smith's Brolly"Once again throwing the money around after Broomhead said money isn't everything.'"
it isn't, however in our current state as a below average 9's team, its smarter and more of a necessity to not allow him to hit the open market and we get in a bidding war with other clubs.
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| So it is still Moran pulling the strings when it matters.
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| Quote ="Wires71"For clarity is using the term "happy clappers" or "negs" or "Mr Happy" in breach of the AUP (genuine question).'"
They are all as tiresome as each other.
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| Quote ="Smith's Brolly"Once again throwing the money around after Broomhead said money isn't everything.'"
may not be everything but if it helps, and you have it, would be foolish not to. Think you may have read too much into what he said.
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| Leigh Centurions can confirm that they have accepted a substantial offer from Warrington Wolves for the transfer of New Zealand International Bryson Goodwin.
The transfer was agreed after cordial discussions between the respective Club Owners, Derek Beaumont and Simon Moran, who have an excellent working relationship.
Leigh Centurions owner Derek Beaumont said: "Once I was aware that Bryson had strong interest from a safe Super League club and would take that option should we get relegated I took the decision to accept a very strong and lucrative offer from Warrington.
"I appreciate the straight and direct way in which Simon Moran dealt with this and I acted in what I believe were the best interests of all parties even if we had stayed up.
"We have alternative targets with whom are in talks and details of any new signings, along with retention and release of any of our current squad, will be made through the normal channels as and when they take place.
"I wish Bryson the best of luck at Warrington and hope they are able to bounce back next year in the manner that Leeds have this year. I appreciate that this will seem negative for the Club but it has actually turned out to be a good piece of business for us under the circumstances."
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Think you may have read too much into what he said. '"
Perhaps, it does appear we will continue to pay 6 figure fees for 30+ year old players with Smith gone.
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| Quote ="Smith's Brolly"Perhaps, it does appear we will continue to pay 6 figure fees for 30+ year old players with Smith gone.'"
I understand your point, but I couldn't care less how much we spend on transfer fees to be honest, so long as we get the players we need. We are a financially strong club and have an immensely wealthy benefactor for which £100k is nothing.
I'd much rather we ran at a loss and had class on the field, than breakeven on the P&L and have Blythe and Evans in the centres.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I understand your point, but I couldn't care less how much we spend on transfer fees to be honest, so long as we get the players we need. We are a financially strong club and have an immensely wealthy benefactor for which £100k is nothing.
I'd much rather we ran at a loss and had class on the field, than breakeven on the P&L and have Blythe and Evans in the centres.'"
I am in total agreement with your first paragraph.
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