Season over and deservedly so after that. Horror show.

For the love of god play a winger though! Smith is too stubborn for his own good.

I'm a supporter of Smith but I am wondering if the shelf life has come to the end. Squad recruitment and selection and inability to get the players to close out tight game. 2013,14,15 and likely 16 without a pot is not what we have come to expect.

I would have thought his experience would help us close out tight games, or at least kicking game keeping opposition on back foot. But then again you can't blame him for the stupid errors we make. That pass that Atkins let sail into touch for one.

I'm with you and have been a supporter of him myself, but he just seemed to have a oh well nevermind attitude, the only thing is could he become a Wenger of RL?

Thought you had won that when Flower went off. Hopefully your confidence will be shot after the way you lost and we can beat you next week for the shield.

The wheels fell off when Hill went off for a rest 2nd half. We rely waaaaay too much on that bloke.

21 unanswered points against 12 men. Pathetic.

That grinning twonk Smith needs to grow a pair, and start the teaching himself and his players some self belief. Doubtless he'll come out with a few e cliches for Sky, and but the blame for this.......... AARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH, I AM SO PEED OFF.

I couldn't give two stiff ones, if Tiernan had a fingernail on the line. WE CAPITULATED.

Gas masks, the loving lot of them.

Cast your minds back to the GF of 3 years ago, against the same opposition. We have a big lead, and and we switched off, and didn't score another point. It had little to do with injuries, just lack of professionalism. We don't learn.

Time to earn your money, Smith.

Backline : Wigan have Gelling and Charnley. We have Evans and Russell. The chasm in class is there for anyone to see.

I keep hearing how good Sims and King are though and how we don't need to recruit any more forwards.

Well you can send Clark back to us if he is an example of poor recruitment.
Actually, we'll take Westerman back too.
Chris Hill and Ashton Sims would be useful props too...and we'll have Jack Hughes too if he isn't good enough.

After all the doom and gloom I just looked at the table . Can't believe it . Guess who's top with one match to play !!

Deserved what we got. Hull have been far the standout team this year and deserve the shield. Same story from us. Decent lead then hang on for 30 mins as we have no kicking game to manage the game and see it out. If you compare us to other top teams, our recruitment has been poor. May as well have been Chris Hill 28 Wigan 35. Had enough of Tony Smith I'm afraid now. Time for a change.

Patton anonymous and partnered Russell in the edge of oompalumpas to get battered on!

Why not Russel at FB BECAUSE HE AIN'T A FECKIN WINGER!!!
Ratchford in the halves.
Penny on the wing.

I've had my fill of TS. I honestly don't give a shaat if he gets sacked. His smug face v both the league and CC defeats and again tonight. He smiles as he enjoys his stubborness.

Psychologicaly done though I fear.

Always a good laugh coming on here after games like this to see the total over-reaction from some. We're top of the league with a game to play, and people are seriously calling for Smith's head! Bet you weren't saying that after 60 minutes! Two faced doesn't come close.

And love this 'chokers' tag: losing a game from a winnable position doesn't mean you choked.

All credit to Wigan-they went up a lot in my estimations tonight.

Looking like a cracking run in now: I reckon it's pretty much impossible to predict how things are gonna pan out. Whatever the disappoint of tonight, that's gotta be excited for any true RL fans hasn't it? And we're a key player in that drama. Still not enough for some folks. And to think we used to mock 'arrogant' fans of big clubs a few short years ago...

Game turned when Currie went off and around that time we had Hill, Clark and (obviously) Currie off the field. Smith got the tactics spot on for me by directing our a paced attack down the middle to turn around their big forwards and we made loads of yards in most sets in that first half and outplayed them.

It was poor defence though for the Tompkins try before half time. We got momentum back after the break but we miss the 3 players mentioned-thought TS should have brought hill back earlier.

We've lost, had just a few naive moments, but played really well. Let's leave the scapegoating out. We've got a great chance still next week, and we're well in the running for the GF

I don't see the game that way Gaz.
We didn't control the ball and Pies ripped us to pieces on the flanks.

No. I'll bet nobody was saying that after 60-minutes, having a comfortable lead and all... You may not have noticed, but most of the posts tonight are about the following 20 minutes when our top-of-the-table side conceded 21 points against 12-men. With the incentive of winning silverware. At home.

Taking issue with that and pointing out obvious frailties with our team isn't two-faced, it's realistic. I haven't seen anyone calling for Smith's head (yet), just people saying they think his time is up/they wouldn't mind a change.

Some of this is true - we miss Hill and Clarke, but you can't realistically say we have played well shipping in 21 points in 20 minutes against 12 men. ??

Ahhhhh, the good old "it'll be all right" attitude. That's why we've won sod all for over 4 years.

... We're all entitled to opinions, but, if you think we didn't bottle that........

oh dear.

I was thinking of the likes of Lineham, Asotasi, Blythe etc.

Hemmings said that?

What an odious c### that prat is.

think you blew it tonight, your bench was poor imo, hill is a beast and clark is top class, as an outsider I think Russell maybe isn't a winger but is always a handful, hope you bring a few next week, safe journey and winner takes all

We've won no trophies in 4/5 years, lost big games, finals, semi finals from winning positions due to Smiths inability to see games out and interchange players at the right times. Once is not choking, 5/6 times IS. We have no wingers and therefore lack pace and without Hill, Clark and maybe sandow this year are nothing special. I stand by my statement that our recruitment compared to others has been poor. We have no balance and no consistency. Granted we look good in periods but I'm fed up of underachieving. Finishing 2nd / 3rd shouldnt be classed as a success considering how we have developed as a club.

You are now. I'd sack him and put Murphy in the dugout. I've seen enough of his smug stubborn grin.