We lost because Saints were very very good. End of. Our forwards were second best and so we struggled to make good yards. Backs in any team will allways struggle if the forwards are losing the arm wrestle (God I sound like Stevo). Saints on the other hand were making more yards, played the ball quicker and hence made more space for the halves to operate. Saints' defence was also excellent, especially in their own 20. We were shifting the ball left and right but the gaps never came. Very good spotting.

And well done to the Saints fans (& Wakefield). Only 7k Wire & Wigan fans and only 6k Leeds fans could be bothered turning up. Good turnout, as ever at the HJ, and very noisy too.

It reminded me of the London game, and we all know what happened the week after.

Westwood Harrison and Carvell out of the pack meant we didn't dominate as we usually do so the backs had no time or space to perform and we're constantly under pressure from a fast smothering Saints helped by lenient offside reffing(for both sides) hence the panicked dropped balls and missed opportunities.
Last year we breezed through to the Semis and got beat, I thought then I didn't like the team having a fortnight off and I think it's a negative not positive.
Now it's knock out.
Keep the faith lads.

My opinion for what is worth is that we lost because of several factors:-

1. No Westwood or Harrison which meant that our pack was dominated by Saints
2. Injuries to Carvell early on & Hodgson meant players had to do longer shifts, no wonder Hill was crean crackered at the end
3. Awesome defence by Saints meant we lost confidence when we couldn't breach their line
4. We didn't get the run of the ball. There were a few instances in the game e.g. Monas charges down a kick in the 1st half near their line then knocks on as he trys to gather it up. If a few of those had gone for us we might have stood a chance

let's hope Rush & KC recognise that and keep him away from the squad of 17 ! he really was an embarassment in an otherwise superb team performance

Not one of our players played to their potential. With regard to Atkins it is a long time since he did play well.

With a team that is the age yours is you have no choice, its starting to look like a long season for a team that is getting very old together.

The rotation clearly has not meant that we now have a fully fit squad.

Snore, jog on fella !

Hollywood passing rather than taking the tackle, Riley overrunning Atkins twice, even though Atkins should have taken the tackle.

Our offensive line very shallow and way too many cut out passes with the receiver getting next to no thinking time due to Saints line speed.

We missed the two Bens' industry in the middle.
Carvell getting the knock didn't help either.

1. Flat, no energy. Its as if we had run out of petrol.
2. Far too many key players didn't turn up plus a few of those that played last night shouldn't be anywhere near our 17, you'll never beat a side like saints carrying passengers.

Credit to Saints, they may well have lost the last 5 grand finals but they certainly know how to get to Old Trafford.

Just hope last night was a blip and a one off and we can pick ourselves up and gather some momentum starting next week.

Why is everyone having a go at a Atkins? If Riley hadn't over ran the ball he would have scored two tries off those passes. Has for McBanana leaving Atkins out of the England set up, this is the same person who has picked Crabtree and not Chris Hill nuff said.

Dont think there was anyone who wasnt good enough or hadnt earn a place in the 17

Did feel we carried on with Hodgson too long even though it was clear he was injured.

Ratchford at fullback and Bridge back at centre, hopefully Harrison back to fill void of Carvell.

I dunno. Stop the daft passes in the middle of the park. And handle soliola better, I think you've got. A different game there.

I actually thought we defended very well in the first half.

We bombed atleast 3 tries Sts should of had one chalked off, could of been alot closer but it just wasnt our night and our passing was awful, reminded me of when Sts last came here.

If it was a home league game against Hull or Huddersfield next I would be confident but its the Playoff and our record in it is a joke.

Saints played well, not great but more than good enough to beat us comfortabley. We had a bad day at the office and we all know we can play so much better than that. We now need to pick ourselves up, dust ourselves down, and prepare to do it all again next weekend.

The chances were, and still are, that we will have to play Saints twice. Obviously I would have prefered to win them both, and I accept that we may well lose them both, but if we are to win one and lose one I would much rather do it this way round.

Saints were poor for the first 30 minutes just too many mistakes.
We cut those out in the second half and win easily really .
What is it with the playoffs with Warrington ?
Will you ever win a championshio or ever get to a grand final ?

I think your team is too old as you seem to tire at the end of a season and in the last 20 minutes of games.

You need to promote and PLAY more youth , keep them in the team !

Yeah, we just need to promote the youth like Saints do, like Wellens, Gardner, Meli, Hohaia, Perry, Laffranchi, Flannery, Puletua & Wilkin...

We got our pants pulled down and our bottoms spanked,by a Saints team which wanted the win more.

How old do you think Riley Atkins Ratchford Myler McCarthy Hill and Cooper are (with Harrison to return)?

We need saving by Super Benny Westwood.

And the rest of the team in pivotal positions are over 30 !

It is simple why you lost. You lost the forward battle which meant that you backs were ineffective

So it's a good mix then.

Age is not the reason we played poorly yesterday.

I think Sia was the game breaker.

Saints had a period of the game sat in the wire half, we kept turning the ball over or gave relieving penalties. Warrington got good field position from these up to the point where Warrington scored their try. Don't forget Meli almost gave you another one, if it had not been for Jones, you could have been 12 - 0 up.

However, as luck would have it Jones was there and Sia came on just in time. Your defence was just as good as ours but Sia is one of those players a bit like Cunningham in his prime, if he is going to go for the line it's going to take a lot to stop him at speed at that kind of range. All teams have players like that, who can not gaurantee, but have a high % chance of scoring, when up against firm defence.

The loose carries and knock on's continued for both teams really, but sia again took full advantage, rather than just diving on the ball to make it safe.

After that we really did not look back and Sia and TP kept the intensity up from our forwards with some bone crunching tackles.

I'm hoping you don't come out of next week as you don't become poor over night and the next time it maybe a lot closer.

Disappointed and hungover.

Roll on next week to right the wrongs from yesterday. Keep the faith.

ISWT.