Ooh thin ice...

....around my cold dead female heart

You've upset me now

You can come round mine and spank my very naughty bottom while i apologise profusely.

For free?


It's a long way to London

this is amazing... Yed i think she wants to pay you as well.

Lol

I'll save it for when i come up then (pardon the pun), one hundred and eighty or 147 even 300 i don't mind.






it's her gift for touching an adonis

I got the jacky on Millionaire at Manchester Airport once.

And I often get 9-darters on the Premier League Darts game on the gameswarehouse machine in the local.

147 thus miles harder than a 9 dart finish

Yed, wearethewire and deckchair. You have tarnished my topic. My mother reads this board!

I haven't done anything its all yeds fault

What ? ( that's my favourite word lol)

having done them both..i would have to say a 9 darter is far harder..my next challenge is an eight darter

Fully agree....I find it strange that if a golfer sticks it 3 foot from the pin, then he is a genius. But then if he sinks a hole in one then its pure luck??...

Back to the original question:

Depends what you mean by easier. Darts players play far more legs than snooker players play frames, so if they were equally difficult, statiscally you would be far more likely to do a nine dart finnish.

Consider a blind person attempting both feats, statistically the two don't compare. An average league player could get lucky and do nine dart finish, I'm confident that it doesn't happen in snooker.

To conclude;

Hole in one: You can do this if you are sh*te any really lucky.
Nine dart finish: You can do this if you are reasonably good and reasonably lucky.
147: You need to be really really good, and have a little bit of luck.

Am I taking this too seriously?

Now that this season is officially over, when does the next one start?

Can they make the next one a few games shorter? This one was too long for us.

9 Dart finish. But a 147 can be harder as it depends on how the table looks before they start. Sometimes just not possible.

Fair point well made their, WITF. The arrangement and posistionibg off the balls obviosly plays a huge part in whether you will pot or not.

It seems that peoples answers so far have very much depended on which of the sports they prefer and if they like O Sullivan or Taylor.

Try and take them 2 out of the argument and concentrate on the actual challenge, which has been achieved by more than just O Sullivan and Taylor.

Hole in One:
Whilst there is far more than luck in this achievement, I understand this argument, because as any golfer would tell you, when they tee off, they are aiming for the green, and to get the ball as close to the hole as possible. If they are lucky the ball will go straight in, but a hole in one is very much luck and it is not a skill that a golfer will spend hours practising. A golfer will practice getting the ball the required distance and keeping the ball straight so that it lands on the green.

If an amateur or casual golfer, has a tee shot good enough to reach the green, then there is a possibility that they could get a hole in one.

And don't forget, the clue is in the name. "Hole in One". It is just one shot, so if you have the luck, then you have achieved this particular challenge immediately. This is different to a 9 dart finish or a 147 because, one lucky treble or a lucky pot and there is still a lot more work required to achieve the goal.

9 Dart Finish:
This is an achievement that only very very good darts players can manage and it involves ability, skill, practice and a bit of luck.
The thing I would say about a 9 dart finish though, is that the situation never changes. It will always be a dart to be thrown at a target.
The darts player always stands in the same position and always knows exactly where he has to aim for. The skill comes in consistently being able to throw accurate darts, and to account for the fact that after each dart that lands in the target area, the area they have to aim for is now smaller.

So for me the skill is in being able to consistently throw the darts accurately enough to land in treble 20, and the luck aspect is in there being enough of the target visible after the first 2 darts have landed.

147 Snooker Break:
Again, this is an achievement that only the very best snooker players can achieve.
Again it requires ability, skill, practice and a bit of luck.

For me though, the reason I lean more towards the 147 break is because it is not as simple as just potting a certain number of balls.
The black is the only colour that can be potted after every red, so it involves a hell of a lot of positional play. Each and every pot has to get the cue ball to finish on another ball which in turn has to be at the right angle to get the cue ball to finish in the right position for the following shot. Sometimes these players are thinking 4 or 5 shots ahead.

There is an element of luck involved and that is in how the balls are positioned on the table, but after that, it takes in incredible amount of skill and ability to clear up the entire table.

I think the reason Ronnie O Sullivan is seen by many as a genius, is because as someone posted earlier, Phil Taylor puts in an incredible amount of practice in to be the best darts player in the history of the sport, and the most successful snooker player ever Stephen Hendry was exactly the same. He spent his entire life practising and working at his game.
O Sullivan is the polar opposite. He seems to be able to do all these incredible things without having the right attitude or without putting in the hours.
Don't get me wrong, that is just how it comes across because O Sullivan will put in plenty of practice as well, but he has a natural ability that none of the other snooker players have. He can do things that take someone else years of work, without looking like he has even had to try.
Because of his attitude, he has not won as many tournaments as he could have done.
If he had the right attitude with that ability, maybe he would have broke every record that there is in snooker, but maybe he wouldn't be the same player if he had a different attitude.

A lot of people don't like O Sullivan because we always respect the hard grafters more than the players who appear to waste their natural abilities.

I believe you have to be very skillful to score a 180 in darts, never mind a 9-dart finish. Out of curiosity, how many 147 breaks were there in the last World Championships and how many 9-dart fininshes in the PCD World Championships. (I'm not counting that BDO crap.)

Ronnie O Sullivan is a natural, he can play left or right handed and is equally good with both which is almost impossible. I play league snooker and league pool (representing Warrington too), and i cant pot with my left hand to save my life.

9 dart finish seems harder. there are about equal 147's to 9 dart finishes professinally IMO.

People are forgetting O'Sullivan gave his £4k to charity,for getting a 147.

yea... it was 'fathers for rough justice'