i for one will never travel to hull again, i travel from mid wales for every home game and away to 5 or 6 games a season and have done for nearly 20 years parking in many different places around wilderspool and the hj stadium,being a proud welshman i have welsh headrest covers and 2 dragons on the parcel shelf and have never had my car touched once,
on my visit to hull last year i had my wing mirror ripped off and on my return home found sheep sha**ers scratched in to my bonnet.

put it this way when i travel to hull i do not wear my wire shirt.

I have been watching RL for thrity years and the only place I have been physically attacked was by Hull fans at the KC Stadium. End of discussion.

i think most people would agree with me in saying they have he WORST fans in the league.

reading this thread you would think you lot are bloomin angels! yes true we at hull fc have a few idiots, just like yourselves at warrington and every club, so please lets not have the hollier than thou attitude from you

you choose to forget your fans vandalised a bar at headingly after losing in the challenge cup semi final a few years ago

wasn't it wire fans who attacked a steward at the kc stadium in 2008? an unprovoked attack

also, we as a family and friends visit hj every year and find it one of the mos intimmidating venues to attend having to walk past the numerous pubs that are full of wire fans having a drink staring at you when you walk past, a friend of mine who was pregnant got verbally abused and threatened by wire fans at the game where there was trouble in 2008, the police told us to go back into the ground for our own safety, also 2006 after the play off game between the two clubs wire supporters threatend my same friend and my mum when leaving the ground, so please beforeyou throw any stones, make sure you have left the glass house first

Hul KR have probably the best set of fans in the league. In the 3 encounters this year they were all very friendly and very gracious in defeat. Especially after the Challenge Cup game. I just thought that was worth mentioning.

Remember being in a pub near the old boulevard a few years ago and the language, even by my standards was shocking and all this commotion about guns and this was from a women of about 70.

Also, spent an hour in the Sandringham by the station abot 3 years ago which was very very strange, what with being offereed a blow job in the gent and the womens being overtaken by a strange women listening to a small radio..... the place was wall to wall freaks.

When the Hull firm







came over a couple of years ago that was just a bunch of football knobs out to cause trouble.

There is an atmosphere at the KC but I think that can be said for the HJ especially for certain games.

Having said all that, I met a couple of cracking Hull fans when in Cardiff for MM and had a great time and still see them at the odd big occasion. Most fans are true supports of the game, the pond life will be pond life whether they got to the games or not.

Bob on. I think Hull FC have the most prominent element of 'pond life' as you put it but as the FC supporter above puts it most sides have an element - just not as "obvious" as theirs. I was in a pub before the cup final and got chatting to a group of blokes from Hull, half of which were FC and half KR, who had gone down to Wembely together as a group as they had been doing for years. They hated each other when their teams were playing each other but best mates otherwise, were these blokes thugs? no of course not. Passionate fans and real supporters, i feel for the real fans that the tosspots give them a bad name in the same way when our fans mibehabe I feel embarrassed. I remember feeling embarressed in Barcelona in June and that was just poor taste singing from kids.

Come on you big bunch of pansies, anything that has happened between RL fans is relatively minor compared to the proper violence and thuggery that occurs on a regular basis between football firms.

I have never witnessed any violence what so ever on my visits to all of the other SL grounds and yes that includes both Hull teams. I also havent witnessed anything other than friendly banter between fans at the hj and wilderspool.

If you cry babies want to see what proper violence and threatening behaviour is then go and attend a few football matches between clubs with a notourious hooligan element.

I don't wear a Wire shirt to any game home or away and have never had any bother. I know kids like to look like their heroes but I really don't understand why adults feel the need to wear them.

You're allowed into the ground without one you know.

Hull City are notorious but when I went there with Liverpool last season they were a right gang of girls in replica shirts and tiger face paint.

The Premier League has taken it's toll on their fanbase.

Having been to the KFC Stadium a few times, I can honestly say I have never experienced trouble there other than Wirewoman being refused entry for being allegedly tired & emotional according to an over-zealous official type.

There was fighting at the GF this year between Saints & Leeds "fans" inside Old Trafford (don't recall that being reported...) and there were many idiots throwing the lights from the bambams hitting children with them, I've seen trouble outside Headingley caused by "football fans" but other than these the closest I can recall to being physically troubled at an away ground was having the car bounced by an elderly (female) fan at Post Office Road some years back.

As has been said, all clubs have a element - the real fans put them to shame with their approach to the family game.

Back on topic - people don't realise how physically big London is - travelling from where my brother lives in Forest Gate to The Stoop is a 20 mile journey taking at least an hour traffic or transport permitting. That's the same journey time every home game as it takes to drive from Warrington to the Galpharm & considerably more expensive. I would prefer to see Quins work more alongside the Union club & promote the two games together, I thought that would happen more when the two merged. Same story at Leeds with the Union side there too (with Henry's Paul & Fa'afili in their squad!)

Are you a complete moron? So what happened to me and others a few years ago didn't happen and if it did it was only a minor incident? I am a proper pansy? An organised group of 20-30 Hull supporters (yes they were wearing shirts) had been taunting the Warrington supporters throughout the game, then left early and massed in that area on the small passage through to the car park. The stewards then attempted to form a cordon and split the two sets of supporters up, however as I walked through I was attacked from behind; luckily I am a hardy soul as what happened would easily have put most in the hospital. This Hull supporter was then arrested and charged as it turned out they were on bail for assaulting a WPC. Model citizen. There were plenty of women and children who could have been caught up in this.

It was only the action of a few people that stopped that night turning out to be a full scale brawl. I have never seen anything close to that happening at ANY other game.

Lest we also forget the Hull supporters invading the pitch at the Galpharm and ripping up the posts.

Just exactly what planet are you on?

So what football matches have you been to then that have ended up with two rival firms fighting then?

Answers as follows, in order of sequence;

No.

If you say so.

Earth.

HTH.

Quality sir, I laughed out loud in my office reading that last line.

Obviously if you're not in a replica you're not a true fan and are probably just there to cause trouble.

Spot on mate.

Does make me laugh though when people turn around and say 'such and such spat at me/assualted my wife/stabbed my 6 year old when i was at Leeds/Cas/Wigan etc because of my shirt/colours.'

Ok Im not for one minute saying that people should feel threatende at the game, but if you remain anonymous outside there is less chance of any of the above occurring.

posted by mark m
'Lest we also forget the Hull supporters invading the pitch at the Galpharm and ripping up the posts.'


interstingly enough, the week after hull fc played warrington at wilderspool, we brought a large banner apologising to the rest of the rugby league game, yet 15-20 warrington fans decided to stand behind the majority of our fans looking for trouble, thankfully the police moved them out of the stand

it makes me laugh when people like yourself wear blinkers and choose not to look at your own clubs fans who well known for causing trouble

Of course, the apology at Wilderspool made it all OK then didn't it. What those idiots did was give RL the worst possible exposure it could get on national TV.
After the incident Mark M refers to in 2005, I wrote to Kath Hetherington requesting the perpetrator get banned from the Stadium. I'm still waiting for a reply which doesn't surprise me in the least.

God almighty.

Tomorrow; Natters (who has severe psychological and gender related issues) denies the holocaust because 'they didn't see it'.

probably for the same reason you have tattoos, identity, the need to belong, a desire to be part of a movement or "clan". human behaviour basically. it's a uniform, a statement, a desire to conform/ not conform, to identify themselves as the same or different.
it's nothing to do with looking like their heroes really, not in most cases any way!

however to belittle someone for doing it is very traffic warden esque!

Rlfans in 'our fans are better than your fans' shocker.

and on the other hand you should be able to got to a sporting event especially a family game like rl without feeling threatened

here here ste.