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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"Well i know someone who does it at 30 as he mixes it with baby powder. blah blah.
Jeez, what else will you be boasting with next, size of car? cup size?
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| Quote ="slimwire66"i know people mask drug use however recreational drugs don't mask performance enhancing drugs there would be no point under current laws.
although i believe even if the law changed they would have no viable role as a masking agent.'"
Cocaine is banned becaused it is classed as a stimulant, and hence performance enhancing. |
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If I wanted to find out about perfomance enhancing drugs I'd be keen to ask Florence Griffiths joyner if she ever took them and why she retired the year before random drug testing was introduced and if she was proud of her achievments.
unfortunately this super fit lady died at 38
and Recreational drugs I'd ask Sid vicious, Jimmy Hendrix phil lynott but their long dead I could ask Ozzy osburne if he ever took recreational drugs but he wouldnt understand the question.....
so in answer to the question
performance enhancing ...heart defects, CJD, Die.
Recreational......become a smack rat, shoplift for a living and then Die
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| Quote ="Wires71"Coke is everywhere at bars and clubs I go to in Manchester, especially amongst those with well paid professions.'"
and it never does anyone any harm
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"If I wanted to find out about perfomance enhancing drugs I'd be keen to ask Florence Griffiths joyner if she ever took them and why she retired the year before random drug testing was introduced and if she was proud of her achievments.
unfortunately this super fit lady died at 38
and Recreational drugs I'd ask Sid vicious, Jimmy Hendrix phil lynott but their long dead I could ask Ozzy osburne if he ever took recreational drugs but he wouldnt understand the question.....
so in answer to the question
performance enhancing ...heart defects, CJD, Die.
Recreational......become a smack rat, shoplift for a living and then Die'"
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"and it never does anyone any harm
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| Quote ="slimwire66"from epilepsy!!!!!!'"
Oh aye i'm not doubting thats what we were told
however this is the lady that holds a world record that still stands despite it being wind assisted yet the wind machine showed no wind.
I wouldnt believe a thing im told about Flo jo..... marion jones merlene ottey Marion jones ' husband and the 90% of "Olympians" who have ruined a once great occasion....
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"
and Recreational drugs I'd ask Sid vicious, Jimmy Hendrix phil lynott but their long dead I could ask Ozzy osburne if he ever took recreational drugs but he wouldnt understand the question.....'"
David Bowie and McCartney seem to have done OK though. Also peanuts kill more people in the UK than E. Now you see it's not quite as simple as you suggest, but then again I find your points are quite crude in construction when dealing with complicated issues. |
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Oh aye i'm not doubting thats what we were told
however this is the lady that holds a world record that still stands despite it being wind assisted yet the wind machine showed no wind.
I wouldnt believe a thing im told about Flo jo..... marion jones merlene ottey Marion jones ' husband and the 90% of "Olympians" who have ruined a once great occasion....
Sorry Slim but i'm anti drugs.....'"
What tangible evidence do you hold from your undoubtededly advantaged view that Florence Griffiths Joyner took performance enhancing drugs to support your inferences? |
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Oh aye i'm not doubting thats what we were told
however this is the lady that holds a world record that still stands despite it being wind assisted yet the wind machine showed no wind.
I wouldnt believe a thing im told about Flo jo..... marion jones merlene ottey Marion jones ' husband and the 90% of "Olympians" who have ruined a once great occasion....
Sorry Slim but i'm a conspiracy theorist.....'"
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Quote ="Wire On The Telly"www.scoresreport.com/tag/deuce-mcallister-performance-enhancing-drugs-report/
www.howstuffworks.com/athletic-drug-test.htm
www.buysteroids.net/performance-enhance ... e-they.php
I am no expert and not even a laymen but there does appear to be products available to mask performance enhancing drugs. I don't know what they are or for which they intend to mask or hide. All i know is previously when a league player has been found to use a non performance enhancing drug, they are banned not just for bringing game into disrepute, but as it can mask other drugs, which are 'performance enhancing drugs'.
Those links are not perfect but its 3 minutes on google for you.'"
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www.howstuffworks.com/athletic-drug-test.htm
www.buysteroids.net/performance-enhance ... e-they.php
I am no expert and not even a laymen but there does appear to be products available to mask performance enhancing drugs. I don't know what they are or for which they intend to mask or hide. All i know is previously when a league player has been found to use a non performance enhancing drug, they are banned not just for bringing game into disrepute, but as it can mask other drugs, which are 'performance enhancing drugs'.
Those links are not perfect but its 3 minutes on google for you.'"
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I have no problem whatsoever with people that use recreational drugs if they don`t break the law in any way to fund their habit and as long as it doesn`t affect their performances on the pitch either, Gareth Hock was just plain stupid for getting caught.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"I dont need evidence she had a moustache and arms like Stallone in Rambo first blood...that'll do for me...'"
That sounds like a description of one of the classier looking birds you used to get in the Showboat. |
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"That sounds like a description of one of the classier looking birds you used to get in the Showboat.'"
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| Quote ="RyanWire"however non of those examples are one of cocaine masking anything so no you have proven nothing.'"
Did you [iactually[/i read what i said? |
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"Did you [iactually[/i read what i said?'"
FYI I can only read what you write not what you say. That aside you wrote
Quote ="Wire On The Telly"Ban for both, not only are non performance enhancing drugs like cocaine a bad habit to get into, especially when you're a big role model like these players are. But it can also mask performance enhancing drugs too.'"
Which suggests Cocaine covers other stuff up. When asked to prove this you came up with something that has nothing at all to do with Cocaine. |
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| Quote ="Wires71"Coke is everywhere at bars and clubs I go to in Manchester, especially amongst those with well paid professions.'"
It goes especialy well when mixed with white rum or maybe even Jack Daniels for the habitual user. Or so I heard. |
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| Quote ="RyanWire"FYI I can only read what you write not what you say. That aside you wrote
Which suggests Cocaine covers other stuff up. When asked to prove this you came up with something that has nothing at all to do with Cocaine.'"
But after my 3 minutes on google i typed this out. This is what comes up when you quote me.
Quote I am no expert and not even a laymen but there does appear to be products available to mask performance enhancing drugs. I don't know what they are or for which they intend to mask or hide. All i know is previously when a league player has been found to use a non performance enhancing drug, they are banned not just for bringing game into disrepute, but as it can mask other drugs, which are 'performance enhancing drugs'. '"
Or do you presume i am a 21st Century Apothercary with a big book of drugs and a degree in chemistery. Slim seemed rather surprised that [iany[/i drug could be used to cover up another, so was providing examples. And as i said [ulike[/u cocaine. |
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with the exception of a smoke,most recreational drugs would be of benefit to a sportsman if taken at the correct time so really ban wether recreational or not
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Quote ="Rob Wire"I have no problem whatsoever with people that use recreational drugs if they don`t break the law in any way to fund their habit and as long as it doesn`t affect their performances on the pitch either, Gareth Hock was just plain stupid for getting caught.'"
Just by obtaining the drugs [u is[/u against the law . Most drug users don't have a highly paid job to fund their habit , so have to do some unsocial behaviour to gain their fix . (Fact) be it dealing themselves or car / house crime - they are unfortuately todays social outcasts . Someone you wouldn't invite into your home.
Gareth Hock has been stupid - and if proven ( and he has not yet been proven guilty) has brought shame not just to Wigan, but the whole of Rugby League.
I bet that this news makes it onto the back pages of the Daily Mail and Express -But the winners of the challenge cup won't . (another Fact) played straight into Union hands here . Thanks Hock you plonker
Please take a leaf from another Wigan team from a few years back
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fERekxzk ... re=channel |
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Quote ="Rob Wire"I have no problem whatsoever with people that use recreational drugs if they don`t break the law in any way to fund their habit and as long as it doesn`t affect their performances on the pitch either, Gareth Hock was just plain stupid for getting caught.'"
Just by obtaining the drugs [u is[/u against the law . Most drug users don't have a highly paid job to fund their habit , so have to do some unsocial behaviour to gain their fix . (Fact) be it dealing themselves or car / house crime - they are unfortuately todays social outcasts . Someone you wouldn't invite into your home.
Gareth Hock has been stupid - and if proven ( and he has not yet been proven guilty) has brought shame not just to Wigan, but the whole of Rugby League.
I bet that this news makes it onto the back pages of the Daily Mail and Express -But the winners of the challenge cup won't . (another Fact) played straight into Union hands here . Thanks Hock you plonker
Please take a leaf from another Wigan team from a few years back
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"But after my 3 minutes on google i typed this out. This is what comes up when you quote me.
Or do you presume i am a 21st Century Apothercary with a big book of drugs and a degree in chemistery. Slim seemed rather surprised that [iany[/i drug could be used to cover up another, so was providing examples. And as i said [ulike[/u cocaine.'"
he asked you to prove that cocaine masks performance enhancers. After this you came back and showed him that some substances mask enhancers but not cocaine. Therefore you proved nothing. |
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"But after my 3 minutes on google i typed this out. This is what comes up when you quote me.
Or do you presume i am a 21st Century Apothercary with a big book of drugs and a degree in chemistery..Slim seemed rather surprised that any drug could be used to cover up another, so was providing examples. And as i said like cocaine.'"
you claim i appeared surprised about masking agents............
poppycock, read my post i asked what cocaine masked! i worked testing urine in a detox unit ffs i understand more about drug testing than you've had hot dinners! to split a metaphor
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Taking (or rather get caught taking) recreational drugs - 2 year ban.
Drink drive - carry on playing.
Beat up somebody in their own home - carry on playing.
Glass someone - carry on playing.
Get involved with a counterfeit inkjet cartridge ring (was he ever found guilty?) - carry on playing.
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