It looks promising regarding maguire at this stage but he has only been here for 2 weeks. If Powell wants the leadership group to emerge naturally then surely he has to wait a bit longer or at least let the whole squad come together before deciding.

I'm beginning to feel the positive vibes growing for the season. To be honest the Captaincy bit does not worry me one jot. You do not need to be Captain to have influence.

He did have issues in the NRL with getting a few suspensions over there, but so did Adrian Morley, who came to Wire and managed to adjust his game, to avoid the suspensions.

Same here. Maguire is making the right noises and key was getting Drinkwater to glue the parts together. Hopefully some younger players will really step up in the backs as theyr'll be surrounded by plenty of protection and experience with our monster pack and pivots.

I really don't want him to give it Ratchford. It's bad enough that hes going to be our starting centre this season. With the squad overhaul and freshness brought in this season it's only right that we pull away from the old guard and give it to Maguire, who, has been there and done it.

Yep let's have a proven winner as captain. A suitable candidate who has been in a league title winning side.

He was offered captaincy as part of his deal.
The talk is just a smoke screen.
At this stage I don’t know if it’s solo, or with Ratchford.

Whilst I think most professional teams these days depend on a senior group to collectively provide the leadership, we have still lacked a true captain for quite a while. Chris Hill was undoubtably a quality prop but I don't think he was what we needed in the captaincy role. Powell has said that he was going to wait before deciding on a captain and I think that is a clever move. He will see during pre-season who is providing the guidance and leadership during the informal training, but yes, Josh McGuire does look a good possibility. Would Williams be another ? I don't think I would pick Ratchford or Currie and don't know enough about our other new recruits.

It shouldn't be Ratchford for the sole reason that the captain should at least be a guaranteed name in the starting 13.
I'd agree with McGuire.

Hughes?

Indeed - he shouldn't have been made captain either

My biggest concern with McGuire is his actual ability to perform, because I watched the Dragons a fair few times this season and he just looked clueless. I don't want to confuse aggression with passion, since his aggression is going to cost us penalties. He looked slow, passes were off, carries were uneventful and tackles were questionable. I don't think I really want that as captain, or even starting. I'm excited about the leadership potential, but not much else. In all honesty, what Billy Magoulias did at the WC was better than anything I saw from McGuire this season.

I see no reason why Williams shouldn't be captain. Especially after his performances at the end of last season, and his WC performances.

Never thought it was a good idea to appoint a Captain who hasn't played a game for us yet.
Lovely to hear Maguire's positive vibe but don't get carried away. Don't think it is important really but Williams for me at the moment ... one of the stars of World Cup, Captain of England & worked his knackers off last year. What is not to like? He is not a natural talker but I reckon we have a few of them. He will call most of the big plays anyway.

Lack of ability or fatigue?

As one of the grafters, a smart coach would spell him sensibly.

Williams is class, but being a class halfback doesn’t mean to say you can radiate an ora about the place that can magnetise respect from everyone.

Mike Gregory and Adrian Morley, Les Boyd to a lesser extent, had that about them, there’s been few if any in my lifetime, too young to understand if Alex had that about him, even though I remember him playing, although he was famous for he rants as a coach after us.

I don’t think Williams has what it takes, McGuire looks to be making the right noises, and the noises I would say are that of someone who already knows he is captain…regardless that I’ve already been told he is captain, or at least sharing that role.

Personally, my guess, he will share captaincy, otherwise it will mean Ratchford from that role he already shared. DP doesn’t seem to be that kind of guy.

Murphy is the only player that I have seen, where the whole of the Rugby League World had to change the rules TWICE, because he manipulated them to his teams advantage.

He was that good......... and he could certainly motivate and lead men.

What an all-round terrible article. Two of the players we couldn't get because we have no quota spots, if we gave more money to George Williams, we wouldn't need cap space anyway - as he is marquee, and Gigot & Le Cam? Give me a break. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/five-pla ... ney-63445/

What an all-round terrible article. Two of the players we couldn't get because we have no quota spots, if we gave more money to George Williams, we wouldn't need cap space anyway - as he is marquee, and Gigot & Le Cam? Give me a break. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/five-pla ... ney-63445/

James Tedesco would look ordinary in that St George team.

[code[/code Quote ="Alffi_7"What an all-round terrible article. Two of the players we couldn't get because we have no quota spots, if we gave more money to George Williams, we wouldn't need cap space anyway - as he is marquee, and Gigot & Le Cam? Give me a break. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/five-pla ... ney-63445/'" Yeah not the best, clearly written by a half assed journo.

[code[/code Quote ="Alffi_7"What an all-round terrible article. Two of the players we couldn't get because we have no quota spots, if we gave more money to George Williams, we wouldn't need cap space anyway - as he is marquee, and Gigot & Le Cam? Give me a break. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/five-pla ... ney-63445/'" Yeah not the best, clearly written by a half assed journo.

The team can be awful, but my comments were specifically about his actions with and around the ball. Which had nothing to do with the team.

Good news. We hope Quote "Gil Dudson is believed to be free to play for new club Warrington in the new year, having missed the World Cup with Wales due to a three-match ban for a Grade C head butt during Catalans’ play-off defeat to Leeds in Perpignan" https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/su ... spensions/

Good news. We hope Quote "Gil Dudson is believed to be free to play for new club Warrington in the new year, having missed the World Cup with Wales due to a three-match ban for a Grade C head butt during Catalans’ play-off defeat to Leeds in Perpignan" https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/su ... spensions/

Quote ="Smiffy27"Good news. We hope Quote "Gil Dudson is believed to be free to play for new club Warrington in the new year, having missed the World Cup with Wales due to a three-match ban for a Grade C head butt during Catalans’ play-off defeat to Leeds in Perpignan" https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/su ... spensions/'" Dudson wasn`t included in the Welsh squad, for the World Cup, owing to his 3 match suspension. How could he then use the games that Wales subsequently played to run down his suspension?

Quote ="Smiffy27"Good news. We hope Quote "Gil Dudson is believed to be free to play for new club Warrington in the new year, having missed the World Cup with Wales due to a three-match ban for a Grade C head butt during Catalans’ play-off defeat to Leeds in Perpignan" https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/su ... spensions/'" Dudson wasn`t included in the Welsh squad, for the World Cup, owing to his 3 match suspension. How could he then use the games that Wales subsequently played to run down his suspension?

I would assume that the argument goes along the lines that Dudson would have been included in the World Cup squad if he hadn't been suspended

Must admit I don't like the phrase "believed to be" ... it lacks certainty.

You are probably right < cough >