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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"A really great, funny book.....However, the last chapter is probably the saddest thing I ever read, and to anybody who gives the book a go, I challenge them not to have a tear in the eye after reading it.'"
Correctamundo - I read it on holiday last year. A brilliant book and the last chapter is a real tear jerker.
Wayne Bennett's book is another great read, some inspiriational stuff in there. Some recommended sports reads -
Jan the Man - Jan Molby
Back from the Brink - Paul McGrath
Letting the Big Dog Eat - John Daly
A Life in Rugby League - Mal Reilly
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| Quote ="magic piano"Got to agree with that.
Also Brave New World by Aldous Huxley (like 1984 and just as accurate in prophecy); Birdsong by Sebastien Faulkes (best WW1 novel ever); and to be disturbed & challenged Deadkidsongs by Toby Litt (just superb, but tough reading).'"
I don't read much fiction but Birdsong is a fantastic book, I read it when I was travelling. It's like watching a 10 hour long war film.
A book recommendation for Wires71 is "The Fall of Apartheid" by Robert Harvey. You might have seen the Channel 4 drama "Endgame" which was shown last year and got repeated due to its good reviews, that drama was based on the book. Basically the (true) story of a British PR agent of a gold mining company, a professor from the University of Stellenbosch and the exiled Thabo Mbeki hosting secret talks in the UK, which are being spied on by the apartheid security services, to start the negotiations which ended up with Mandela's release and apartheid laws being repealed. As he says in the book, it's one of those situations where the truth could have been written as a political thriller. Mbeki comes out of it very well, ironically seeing as he was generally seen as a disappointment after his 10 years as President of South Africa, back in the late 80s he was a key figure in bringing apartheid to a close.
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| Just finished The Black House by Stephen King and Peter Straub. First read it and really enjoyed it years ago, and enjoyed it just as much this time. Helps a little if you read The Talisman by the same authors first.
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| We seem to have alot off reconmmendations for books.So i can i suggest we put them if diferent catergories.
Like best Ficton,best auto biography, and so on.I think you get the picture.
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| How about books to avoid?
Stephen King - Carrie
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| Quote ="Wire In The Final"
How about books to avoid?
Stephen King - Carrie'"
IMO Stephen King books are either absolutely amazing (the aforementioned 'Talisman' and 'Black House' for example) or very poor. I cannot put into words the utter disappointment I felt after investing weeks into completing 'The Dark Tower' series of books (anyone who has read the full series will know what I mean).
Another favourite of mine is 'Good Omens' by Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"I don't read much fiction but Birdsong is a fantastic book, I read it when I was travelling. It's like watching a 10 hour long war film.
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I have that book in my 'intray' at the moment and I'm waiting for a reason to kick into it. I've read the first chapter which didn't quite grab me as I'm used to reading fact. Is it really worth a go?
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| Actually, forgot Paul McGrath's autobiography is outstanding. Really gritty & honest. Maybe the best I've read. [They're all I read
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| Dan Browns Da Vinci Code was a book I really enjoyed and have just bought his new one, The Lost Symbol so I'll let you know what thats like when I get chance to read it.
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| Quote ="Garrincha's Dog"I have that book in my 'intray' at the moment and I'm waiting for a reason to kick into it. I've read the first chapter which didn't quite grab me as I'm used to reading fact. Is it really worth a go?'"
Well I'm the same as you I tend to read mainly fact....biographies, political books etc, but I got into Birdsong
The first chapter or so seems a bit more like a girly romance novel with a bit of literotica thrown in. Basically thats introducing some characters that will crop up throughout the novel and also, I think, throwing you off the scent by making the reader think that this is going to be a nice easy read bit of romantic literature.
Once he gets to the front, and other characters start to be introduced in the war, it becomes engrossing. If you are claustrophobic be careful of reading the sections where they are tunnelling under the German lines to plant mines, it will feed your nightmares.
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| Currently on the bedside table.....
[iRestless[/i by Wiilliam Boyd
[iThe Great Crash 1929[/i by J.K. Galbraith
[iA Short History of Almost Everything[/i by Bill Bryson
[iLiverpool City RLFC: Rugby League in a Football City[/i by Mike Brocken
Things I'd recommend anyone to read...
Anything by Roddy Doyle, Ian McEwan ([iSaturday[/i is probably my favourite modern novel), The Rebus Novels by Ian Rankin...
Just getting into Philip Roth. Whoever mentioned Saul Bellow, well he's probably next on my list of US 20th Century literature.
Favourite book of all time is probably Jane Eyre.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Well I'm the same as you I tend to read mainly fact....biographies, political books etc, but I got into Birdsong
The first chapter or so seems a bit more like a girly romance novel with a bit of literotica thrown in. Basically thats introducing some characters that will crop up throughout the novel and also, I think, throwing you off the scent by making the reader think that this is going to be a nice easy read bit of romantic literature.
Once he gets to the front, and other characters start to be introduced in the war, it becomes engrossing. If you are claustrophobic be careful of reading the sections where they are tunnelling under the German lines to plant mines, it will feed your nightmares.'"
I must be one of the few people who don't rate 'Birdsong'. Long-winded and the romance is over-emphasised. There are better insights into war in Murakami's stuff - or read Wilfred Owen.
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| Read FA Confidential by David Davies the other month. Was a highly enjoyable read. Got a rare insight in how things operate in the FA, and also first hand the scandals that hit them when Eriksson was in charge of the national team.
Graham Poll's autobiography is also a tremendous read.
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| Sophie's world by Jostein Gaarder.
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| I can never put a Chris Ryan book down.
The Watchman and Tenth Man Down are the best of his I've read.
Dale Browns' Dreamland series are superb aswell, focusing on Area 51 stories, not aliens, but experimental aircraft put into action secretly. Not everyones taste I'm sure, but if you're into stuff like that, it's a great read.
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| Political diaries are another genre I enjoy. Alan Clarke's are wonderful, Tony Benn's great for different reasons. I started Alistair Campbell's [iThe Tony Blair Years[/i which are a bit too close for comfort.
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| Another question....
What is the most challenging book you've read?
I think I'd have to go with [iMidnight's Children[/i by Salman Rushdie. (I've never read any Joyce or Proust).
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Another question....
What is the most challenging book you've read?
I think I'd have to go with [iMidnight's Children[/i by Salman Rushdie. (I've never read any Joyce or Proust).'"
The Hobbit - tried several times to start it over the years & hated it. Thought the LoR films were brillliant but never got into reading Tolkein.
Also a mate of mine wrote a book the other year; it was bloody awful! A real struggle to finish that one & when I did it was with a sense of relief and that I had won...
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| Never read any of the Tolkien stuff. I did enjoy [iMidnight's Children[/i (and other Rushdie) but it's not an easy read. Bizarrely, I've not read [iThe Satanic Verses[/i, although I imagine that's pretty difficult.
Jeanette Winterson is another. [iOranges Are Not The Only Fruit [/iis very easy, but then she went weird. [iSexing The Cherry[/i - crikey!
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| Quote ="InSmithWeTrust"I can never put a Chris Ryan book down.
The Watchman and Tenth Man Down are the best of his I've read.
Dale Browns' Dreamland series are superb aswell, focusing on Area 51 stories, not aliens, but experimental aircraft put into action secretly. Not everyones taste I'm sure, but if you're into stuff like that, it's a great read.'"
I agree, you start reading them and before you know it you've been reading for about 3 hours.
In general try [iThe Cull[/i by Mark Frankland, a brilliant book.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Another question....
What is the most challenging book you've read?
I think I'd have to go with [iMidnight's Children[/i by Salman Rushdie. (I've never read any Joyce or Proust).'"
Brief History of Time. I still struggle with the link between light particles and 'events'.
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| The lovely Bones, i read the first chapter and put it down it's was not very comfortable reading about a nonce killing a young girl. I was told if you get past the 1st chapter it's a good read but i actually found it upsetting and gave it to the charity shop.
Saying that i managed to get through the Dave Pelzer books.
A boy called it
The lost boy
A man named Dave
very harrowing and eye opening, very hard to read purely because you can't believe this stuff happens
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| Having finished my last book (reading that is!) this thread came at an ideal time. Based on this thread I picked up copies of The Restraint Of Beasts by Magnus Mills and Birdsong by Sebastian Faulks.
Read The Restraint of Beasts over a few days early this week and thoroughly enjoyed it. Very easy reading with a few giggles, though all a little odd, especially concerning the dead! It reminded me of a book I read donkeys years ago called (bit of a mouthful this) - 'And to My Nephew Albert I Leave the Island What I Won Off Fatty Hagan in a Poker Game' by David Forrest. I say it reminded me of the David Forrest book, but I did read that over 20 years ago and I do struggle to remember what I was upto this morning so you could take that comparison with a pinch of salt. However, having said how I thoroughly enjoyed it I did feel quite disappointed and let down after finishing it.
Third of the way or so through Birdsong and I'm finding it increasingly difficult to put down.
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| 'Ken Follett - Pillars of the Earth'
and the follow on title
'World without end'
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