300 posts in... Can we just agree to disagree now lads?

For once we agree

Down to the club to resolve this one.

My God - get in the real world.

Good job you weren't expecting similar outcomes with Watson last year and with Fergie during his first half year, to name but a few.

I bet you're the type who would buy a natural wooden table and complain that the woodgrain is showing and not consistently matched...please don't tell me that has really happened.

It always has been and will be down to the club.

All we can do on here, is debate and exchange opinions.

One thing that stands out is we are desperate for a real onfield captain and leader.

Yep, rest time. My head is sore and it's knocked a brick wall down.

End of the day Powell was suppose to improve us and instead he's made us absolutely w*nk. Above Wigan and 1 point off Saints, to fighting relegation. It takes absolute poor planning and execution to be like this 3/4 of a way through a season when you had 4-5 months before we even took to a field to identify the problem kids. They've all been shipped out now finally apparently and yet we're sh*tter now than we were at the start of the season going 3-0.

I do love how he said he isn't gonna throw Riley Dean under the bus but did that very thing the first time he took to the field for us this year. Nice of him to open his own eyes finally aswell and admit we're winning jaff all this year, but hey, maybe next year. Firstly the fans could have done with that info 4 months ago so they didn't have to sit and watch truly horrible performances while you started pulling at wires that had in fact been performing for us until you got your hands on them. And secondly, there are no, and I mean absolutely NO maybe we win somethings next season. You'll win everything on offer without question or you can fck off now. Because if we are pulling teeth this way in 2022 only to drown in the proverbial blood you're causing in 2023. Then what was the point.

You think he might be the right coach then?

Yes, 100%, but needs time. And the great news is he will, so people can moan all they like, but he'll still be here.

Yeah, I know you do. I thought maybe wirewirewire was wavering. Lol.

The issue with Powell is that he's 5-7 years too late.

He's come in and turned everything over without the foresight to see that it would blow out his squad and his entire season.
Compare this to Nathan Brown rebuilding Huddersfield or Saints. How many did he clear out in his first season.

Or Justin Holbrook taking over from Cunningham mid-season.

No clear outs just taking what was there and improving it, whereas Powell seems to have spat his dummy out like he does following a loss and thrown the blame everywhere but himself.

Where Warrington great in the last 3 years? No.
Are they improved this year ? No.

Who managed this wrecking ball approach ? Powell.

Do other successful coaches do this? No

I'm just waiting to see if i can get a refund on my 2022 calendar I bought in Jan, it's got more red crosses on faces than pages

If you're supporting Powell, and are maybe even part of that band of happy clappers, you're part of the problem this club has in accepting mediocrity. Powell has to go now, Fitzpatrick with him, and bring in Nathan Brown or Michael Maguire before we get relegated.

I've had enough of these Powell is the " second coming of the Wire Messiah, ", you can't argue with a zealot. Common sense doesn't count, just the repeat of the mantra, in Powell we trust.
Bye from this topic, I've got a life to live

I've had enough of these Powell is the " second coming of the Wire Messiah, ", you can't argue with a zealot. Common sense doesn't count, just the repeat of the mantra, in Powell we trust.
Bye from this topic, I've got a life to live

Yay. Happy clappers and accepting mediocrity in one post. This true fan bingo is good fun.

I wonder about this too. Barrie McDermott said the same. Their pre-season comments about Warrington were along the lines of "I'm not sure about Warrington this year...I think Daryl has a very big job on his hands there" which seemed surprising for a squad that was usually in the playoffs. It sounded like word was going round the circuit that there were more problems than we had realised.

Good points. I've been following the Arsene Wenger documentaries/podcasts and its interesting to see his approach when he first came to the UK. He transformed a culture from booze and pies into a highly professional European style of fitness and nutrition, with a group of players who were definitely sceptical early on. He didn't take the wrecking ball approach he brought them with him. Where there were some players who just weren't on board with the programme (Paul Merson, John Hartson) he didn't bomb them out of the club, he just quietly waited for an opportunity to move them on.

Engineering conflict is unlikely to end well.

I saw it a different way to be honest. There is no love lost between the two of them, I read it as Wayne's questioning of Powell's coaching ability, not that the players were the problem.
If Wayne was questioning the ability of the players why would he have so many of them in his England squad last year and this?
However, we probably will never find out.

We've had 2 nice guy coaches in Price and Smith and the board thought perhaps that a different approach may work. Shaun Wayne was touted on here; I can't imagine he would take any crap, it's my way or the highway with him apparently.

Exactly this. He knew they were talented players and he thought he could get tune out of them despite the same players being responsible for round 1 knockouts at Warrington.

I'm really grateful to you here because this highlights perfectly the attiude of our players who think it's acceptable to put half d efforts in at our club, yet will raise their game when it suits them and they think its more important.

Can somebody smarter than me tell me about the defensive structure this year? We're shipping points like nobody's business. This many points can't all be down to individual errors, surely?

What's the deal, are we going man for man, have we got less emphasis on the wrestle and more on impact, thus creating a fast ptb against us? Is Powel a fan on a tighter middle and thus there are spaces on the edges.

Has there been a philosophy switch that's notable because I'm scratching my noggin?

Lack of effort mainly. See saints game.

Incorrect. We have won 3.

We have won 6 trophies since Smith came in.

The point I keep making is that we had instant success and were competitive after one full season from Smith and Price.

Smith - 3rd Place / Preliminary Semi Final / Challenge Cup Winners
Price - 4th Place / Grand Final Runner Up / Challenge Cup Runner Up
Powell* - 9th Place / TBC but might not even make playoffs / Challenge Cup Last 16

I'm more than happy to accept I was wrong and look like an idiot next season, or even this season if we pull off a miracle. But compared to how well our last 2 coaches did, this is currently not acceptable in comparison.

One major missing comparative factor here - time. Even if Powell was doing well, at this point in the season he'd be unable to win anything apart from a challenge cup.