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| Wrench covering Wing isn't a bad shout but say we play him on the wing then lose a centre, there is hardly any cover at all in the backs. Plus it would definitely be better to try to settle him in one position at this stage, he is our only centre cover so will likely be getting a good 10-20 games at centre covering injuries/ suspensions.
Chanrley is good, he's reliable and he consistently plays most games in a season. I'd much rather he stays to be honest, I would be tempted to swap for Eden on a less wage though if that's on the cards.
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| Quote ="CW8"Wrench covering Wing isn't a bad shout but say we play him on the wing then lose a centre, there is hardly any cover at all in the backs. Plus it would definitely be better to try to settle him in one position at this stage, he is our only centre cover so will likely be getting a good 10-20 games at centre covering injuries/ suspensions.
Chanrley is good, he's reliable and he consistently plays most games in a season. I'd much rather he stays to be honest, I would be tempted to swap for Eden on a less wage though if that's on the cards.'"
I too would like to see Charnley stay.
He has been starved of possession, and did not get enough chances, which was ludicrous given his try strike rate when he joined us.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"
Not necessarily, if he's learning to play centre, not guarantee he can swiftly pick up wingers positioning and catching the myriad of kicks.
Not just yet.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"
So do you want him to play in our reserve team until Matautia retires then?
Wrench needs to play Super League in 2022 and if it means playing wing initially if Charnley leaves then I think he will thrive.
Lots of player have started their 1st team careers out of position on the wing, and then moved elsewhere in the backline later.
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| I have hope Powell will give plenty of game time to Wrench, Thewlis, Walker and Longstaff. I think they are 4 real quality youngsters (particularly Walker and Longstaff) who will be around for a while.
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| Have we got one yet?
We’ll be lucky to be top 5.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Have we got one yet?
We’ll be lucky to be top 5.'"
I’m going out on a bit of a limb here RD, but am I right in thinking you believe we are light in the prop dept?
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"I’m going out on a bit of a limb here RD, but am I right in thinking you believe we are light in the prop dept?'"
Anything to get his mate Battye in
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| When you've seen teams with Sumner, Mark Jones, Gary tees, and hilton as your props, I don't know how you can possibly complain about the current incumbents.
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| Sumner ?!?!? He was a great prospect when he came though. Remember that try at the old Boulevard ?
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| Sumner was way back when I first started watching, but I seem to remember injuries being the problem rather than ability?
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"When you've seen teams with Sumner, Mark Jones, Gary tees, and hilton as your props, I don't know how you can possibly complain about the current incumbents.'"
Does the comparison hold Moe?
I don't have the answers and don't know whether we have cap space and will give them the BOD based on Powell's "gauntlet" podcast but the "current incumbents" are part of a squad that's been well funded and has been for years. Surely the question is, is it balanced, is our pot divvied up correctly?
The comparative would then read Morley, Carvell, Wood and Hill.
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| Quote ="easyWire"Sumner was way back when I first started watching, but I seem to remember injuries being the problem rather than ability?'"
That's as I remember it as well. At that time we had to play young forwards too often and suffered the consequences.
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| Been thinking about this and, in particular, the repeated references to a Satae type prop being required. That may well be true, but I'm not sure it's the style of prop that Powell goes for. Sizewise maybe yes, but Millington, Massey, even Liam Watts are not that barnstorming style. Junior Moors perhaps the exception to prove the rule. I think he'll be after Luke Thompson.
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| It's not about stature it's about the ability to make yardage but also bust a tackle, get quick PTB and put in the occasional offload. Those things draw in more defenders and create a bit more space.
A small pack is fine so long as they tick the performance indicators. Ours doesn't.
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| Sorry I thought this thread was about Hughes.
Carry on.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Sorry I thought this thread was about Hughes.
Carry on.'"
The thread is entitled new prop, not Hughes. Not a fan of Hughes at all but not going to dig him out when problem is far deeper and dies not Lay at Hughes door.
On the subject point, fair to say we are all desperate for a new prop it’s genuinely Incredible that every warrington fan was crying out for it but those professionals tasked with the responsibility didn’t.
Worrying !!
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| Quote ="CW8"It's not about stature it's about the ability to make yardage but also bust a tackle, get quick PTB and put in the occasional offload. Those things draw in more defenders and create a bit more space.
A small pack is fine so long as they tick the performance indicators. Ours doesn't.'"
Sounds like Chris Hill? Why did we let him go or did he want to leave?
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| Currie, Holmes, Hughes, Davis, Magoulias, J Clark, Philbin, Harrison, Butler
Imagine we replaced just replaced some of those with high-quality big men. With salary cap considerations, you could probably get rid of four of them to bring in two well-paid high-quality props when you consider we have some young talented back-rowers.
It has been a complete failure of squad management and recruitment. There's no hindsight either. Us simple-minded fans have been banging on about this for years now.
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| Quote ="Big Dave 3"Quote ="CW8"It's not about stature it's about the ability to make yardage but also bust a tackle, get quick PTB and put in the occasional offload. Those things draw in more defenders and create a bit more space.
A small pack is fine so long as they tick the performance indicators. Ours doesn't.'"
Sounds like Chris Hill? Why did we let him go or did he want to leave?'"
Exactly, draw in defenders & get the ball out ,but we also need to instil an attitude throughout the team of the importance of supporting any break whether forward or back.
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| I'll ask the question again, is this the chris Hill that the majority of warrington fans were slagging off for being a penalty machine for the past 4 seasons?
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Mikołaj Olędzki would be nice.'"
Most overrated prop in the game.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"I'll ask the question again, is this the chris Hill that the majority of warrington fans were slagging off for being a penalty machine for the past 4 seasons?'"
In fairness he was better when the captaincy was removed.
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| Just on what I think was a positive, butler wasn't too bad at the weekend, I dont recall anything horrid happening down to him, he ran the ball in pretty strong. Only got a 20 min price style cameo
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Just on what I think was a positive, butler wasn't too bad at the weekend, I dont recall anything horrid happening down to him, he ran the ball in pretty strong. Only got a 20 min price style cameo'"
He'll definately improve with more game time, he needs to stamp his mark and kick on. I was excited when we signed him and i hope he can finally hit top form.
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