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| Enough is enougb, we're playing with one hand tied behind our back all the time.
Plenty of others failed to perform, but Patton hasn't risen.above mediocrity for months.
Mamo to FB, Stef to SO and I hope to goodness Lineham is back next week as well.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Well let's see who wants to rip Dec today for Austin's poor game.
Even for all of Patton's inability. I've never seen him as poor as Austin today.'"
Austin didn't have his best game yet created chances and scored.
His kicking was poor today
Patton is a liability. At one point on their line we outnumbered them and Patton threw a pass to nobody, then held his hands up as if to say why didn't you catch it. To put a prop on the wing, a centre to full back and the full back to half back says it all.
In what way are you and Dec related?
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| If Dec gets charged with biting it could be some time before he's seen again anyway.
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| Quote ="Fletcher-end-red"Austin didn't have his best game yet created chances and scored.
His kicking was poor today
Patton is a liability. At one point on their line we outnumbered them and Patton threw a pass to nobody, then held his hands up as if to say why didn't you catch it. To put a prop on the wing, a centre to full back and the full back to half back says it all.
In what way are you and Dec related?'"
Go back through my posts... BTW that post was at half time and I'll stand by it... Patton didn't stand up in the second half and that is his downfall. Has some talent but doesn't back himself.
From now we drop him from the first team and get Ratchford back into a position he can get his hand on the ball....that is all I harp on about.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Go back through my posts... BTW that post was at half time and I'll stand by it... Patton didn't stand up in the second half and that is his downfall. Has some talent but doesn't back himself.
From now we drop him from the first team and get Ratchford back into a position he can get his hand on the ball....that is all I harp on about.'"
Ratchford gets his hands on the ball though, plenty of times throughout the game, on both sides of the field.
Granted we need something different but I don't see ratchford in the Half's as being the answer.
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| Quote ="Fletcher-end-red"Ratchford gets his hands on the ball though, plenty of times throughout the game, on both sides of the field.
Granted we need something different but I don't see ratchford in the Half's as being the answer.'"
Because having your best players in a position he can get his hands on the ball gives you the best chance of winning.
I said if that is at fullback...then so be it...but it clearly isn't and hadn't been.
Ratchford at halfback and he gets to call the play.
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| Whatever anyone thinks of Stefs abilities at SO, if we want to change things that is our only option and, frankly, I fail to see how it can weaken our attack any further.
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| Once again we have a Brexit style feeding frenzy on this seasons scapegoat.
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| I don't think you'll get 48% in the Dec remain camp. He's not alone in our failings but as a SL half back he's just nowhere near the required standard.
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| Quote ="Milly"If Dec gets charged with biting it could be some time before he's seen again anyway.'"
On Connor? Surely thats fully justified and in accordance with the rules?
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Whatever anyone thinks of Stefs abilities at SO, if we want to change things that is our only option and, frankly, I fail to see how it can weaken our attack any further.'"
Well exactly.
If we keep putting out the same halfback combo and same spine support...how can we expect anything more than the same results as the week previous and in the future.
The signs were there vs Saints and so obvious vs Salford that change was required. It didn't happen.
Ratchford at halfback is a serious ratchet up a notch and I will expect a shift in gear for future games if we stick with this.
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| Quote ="silver2"On Connor? Surely thats fully justified and in accordance with the rules?'"
If you stick your hand in someones mouth and press it against the teeth...it's going to mark. We all know what a cheat Connor is...but he's freakin good too.
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| Let’s face it, he’s no scapegoat, he’s just not very good.
He’s limited and average in pretty much everything he does and in such a key position we just can’t afford a player lacking in so much quality.
He’s played over 100 games for us now and has had a good run in the team and has proved to be sub-standard. No excuses now, he needs to be took out of the firing line.
It’s not his fault, I’m sure he’s a good lad and I’d be made up if he proved me wrong but we’ll struggle to win anything while he’s a regular in our side.
Buck stops with Price and the club on this for me though. He wasn’t the answer last year, so what made us think he would be now? Should’ve gone out there pre-season and replaced Brown when we had the chance.
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| Surely we must have something better.... literally any scrum half in the league would do.. and probably half the ones in the championship.
beyond poor... Would take GOB back in a heartbeat to replace him.
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| Any plans for who will be our next scapegoat if Patton didnt play?
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| Quote ="silver2"Any plans for who will be our next scapegoat if Patton didnt play?'"
Blake Austin.
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| We have 2 of the finest halfs in RL...it's about time we played them together.
Ratchford and Austin.
The rule applies...a big good un ALWAYS beats a small good un.
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| Quote ="DAG"
Buck stops with Price and the club on this for me though. He wasn’t the answer last year, so what made us think he would be now? Should’ve gone out there pre-season and replaced Brown when we had the chance.'"
This hits the nail on the head for me.
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| Quote ="silver2"Any plans for who will be our next scapegoat if Patton didnt play?'"
Plenty of players not good enough/not firing for us at the moment. But at some point most of them have proven themselves worthy of a starting jersey. If he wasnt a local lad he would have been hung, drawn and quartered by now. He offers less than Rodwell and he was pilloried.
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| Quote ="silver2"Any plans for who will be our next scapegoat if Patton didnt play?'"
not sure.... it will probably be the worst player in the team... Thats how it usually works.
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| Quote ="silver2"Any plans for who will be our next scapegoat if Patton didnt play?'" Is that your only reply when discussing Patton?No scapegoating here from what I can see.The lad has been given ample opportunity to step up to the plate and hate to agree with some on here but he’s championship at best and if Pricey can’t see that we are in trouble.
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| Quote ="runningman29"Is that your only reply when discussing Patton?No scapegoating here from what I can see.The lad has been given ample opportunity to step up to the plate and hate to agree with some on here but he’s championship at best and if Pricey can’t see that we are in trouble.'"
I think he's his Dad.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I think he's his Dad.'"
Right club, wrong employee.
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| Quote ="silver2"On Connor? Surely thats fully justified and in accordance with the rules?'"
He'd win "I'm a celebrity" if he's willing to bite a grub like Connor.
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