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| Quote ="Sandwich Wire"Just looked on NRL website and it is announced Pay has signed up with the Dogs for 2 years.'"
If only we would have sacked Tony in March Pay would have been here now and we would have been playing Castleford tonight, everyone knows this?
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"If only we would have sacked Tony in March Pay would have been here now and we would have been playing Castleford tonight, everyone knows this?'"
Aye but then he would of gone home for the Bulldog job.
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"If only we would have sacked Tony in March Pay would have been here now and we would have been playing Castleford tonight, everyone knows this?'"
Worked for Saints.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Aye but then he would of gone home for the Bulldog job.'"
I wouldn't care then. Job done.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"Every single news report on Steve Price is negative. From losing the dressing room to random starting line ups. Trying to imitate Wayne Bennet in press conferences. Heavy losses. Not able to do anything with an exceptional roster etc.
I'm sorry but his appointment is not right, before it's even begun.
Mark my words this won't last. He'll be gone before summer 2018.'"
If that happens, which I hope it doesn't, the "we should never have replaced Smith" from the posies would be unbearable. Ha ha
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| Quote ="Wirefan"Every single news report on Steve Price is negative. From losing the dressing room to random starting line ups. Trying to imitate Wayne Bennet in press conferences. Heavy losses. Not able to do anything with an exceptional roster etc.
I'm sorry but his appointment is not right, before it's even begun.
Mark my words this won't last. He'll be gone before summer 2018.'"
Not right before it's begun? Brilliant, if it's true that we are Price why wouldn't we give the bloke a chance? It's rumoured that we went after more than one target and by all accounts we've been blown out by candidates that may have been more palatable to this internet forum...
Yes, let's knock the guy that stuck his hand up and accepted the challenge, if it is him and said I'll uproot everything, come over to the other side of the world and give it a go. All we can ask is that whoever comes in he does his best and is judged accordingly and that can't be before it's begun surely?
I don't know too much about him but I'm prepared to give him a chance. You never know it might work better having someone here with a point to prove? It's all conjecture but imagine if hot property Pay came here, how long would he have lasted when the NRL came knocking, there may have been a different pressure keeping him and allowing him time to build some with us
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| Quote ="karetaker"Aye but then he would of gone home for the Bulldog job.'"
Exactly, thanks Karetaker
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I wouldn't care then. Job done.'"
Lot's of if's and buts but I'd care because if it he was successful it would be too short lived and we'd be in the cart again looking for a coach yes we would all be happy changing staff every 6 months
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Not right before it's begun? Brilliant, if it's true that we are Price why wouldn't we give the bloke a chance? It's rumoured that we went after more than one target and by all accounts we've been blown out by candidates that may have been more palatable to this internet forum...
Yes, let's knock the guy that stuck his hand up and accepted the challenge, if it is him and said I'll uproot everything, come over to the other side of the world and give it a go. All we can ask is that whoever comes in he does his best and is judged accordingly and that can't be before it's begun surely?
I don't know too much about him but I'm prepared to give him a chance. You never know it might work better having someone here with a point to prove? It's all conjecture but imagine if hot property Pay came here, how long would he have lasted when the NRL came knocking, there may have been a different pressure keeping him and allowing him time to build some with us'"
I'm just annoyed thats all. I wanted so much to be positive over the appointment of a new coach after the last few years and I'm just deflated it's someone of his profile after talk of Maguire, Pay and Brennan.
Obviously he's been assistant to Bennet and Flanagan at St George and Cronulla so must have something about him but that doesn't always mean good head Coach and the one time he has been given a shot he was awful.
Let's hope he has good contacts in the game and can bring over some quality with him.
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| Have I missed the announcement? Judging by the vitriol I presume it has been confirmed somewhere?
As an aside wasn't D Powell a failed coach who went off to a lower team and then resurrected his career at Cas?
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| Well, I was fully expecting an announcement in today's WG - but nothing.I assume that means the the search is on going and that the appointment of Steve Price is not a certainty.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"I'm just annoyed thats all. I wanted so much to be positive over the appointment of a new coach after the last few years and I'm just deflated it's someone of his profile after talk of Maguire, Pay and Brennan.
Obviously he's been assistant to Bennet and Flanagan at St George and Cronulla so must have something about him but that doesn't always mean good head Coach and the one time he has been given a shot he was awful.
Let's hope he has good contacts in the game and can bring over some quality with him.'"
Each to their own Wirefan, I will leave "annoyed" with you but could understand underwhelmed as you and many others had set their sights elsewhere.
My own opinion is that I don't know much about the fella or the other realistic options that we courted only to be rejected to be judgemental before it's begun. Imagine starting a new job a high profile one at that thinking you're 4th choice and the fans don't rate you
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| Everyone arrives here with a blank slate in my book. Let's wait and see.
Different coaches in different environments perform differently.
EG Mick Turner had previously had a fair few successful years at Wigan strength and conditioning. Comes here to do the same job, players don't like it, doesn't work out.
With the exception of Madge, the others are all young hungry NRL assistants. With any of them there's a risk. Pay could just as easily be crap at Canterbury and we'd say we dodged a bullet by not hiring him.
Like I said, let's wait and see...
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Have I missed the announcement? Judging by the vitriol I presume it has been confirmed somewhere?
As an aside wasn't D Powell a failed coach who went off to a lower team and then resurrected his career at Cas?'"
Am I the only one who thinks Powell wasn't that bad in his first job at Leeds? He was young and inexperienced, sure - but he had them playing above average.
In fact, controversially you could argue that it was Powell at the helm when Sinfield, McGuire and Burrow came through and Tony Smith just carried on the good work started
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| Simon Moran has an excellent track record in appointing the right Head Coach at the time. Paul Cullen was perfect in 2002 and Tony Smith was perfect in 2009. Perhaps he's then too loyal (since when was loyalty a bad thing?), but given the last two appointments (I'm writing off Lowes as a stop gap as we awaited Smith's availability), I'm more than happy to give whoever is appointed my full backing.
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| I don't think we can go any lower than we already are (especially with franchising potentially back on the cards at the end of next season) so I too will wait and see, even if I am a little deflated after the talk of Maguire and Pay.
At the end of the day if we do the basics well and the players put the effort in, we have some class there to make a difference. All depending of course on whether we can find an experienced half to steer us around the park. And I wasn't thinking of Matty Smith or Gidley, all due respect to both... I want a cocky, confident leader who's not afraid to rip into his comrades to get them going. Where's Shaun Edwards when you need him?
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Does this article in the WG suggest there is no announcement today?
www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... /?ref=fbpg
If that's the case were people just assuming there would be an announcement today (as I was) to coincide with the WG coming out, or are we still expecting Price to be confirmed later?
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Does this article in the WG suggest there is no announcement today?
www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... /?ref=fbpg
If that's the case were people just assuming there would be an announcement today (as I was) to coincide with the WG coming out, or are we still expecting Price to be confirmed later?
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| There must come a stage with any club chasing an Aussie coach where the board have to step back & really examine whether or not it is right to throw big bucks at someone who is basically unproven when their original target has been at a much higher level. There maybe a British coach just as good who will work for less.
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| I'm firmly in the 'give the man a chance section'
At the end of the day whoever comes over if indeed it is an Aussie, they will eventually want a seat at the top table in Australia, this gives them a window to show what they can do being the big boss. Die a death and they would be highly unlikely to get a top gig at home, BUT go to the other side of the world, turn a flagging team into a champion side and I'm sure his stock will go through the roof.
So at the end of the day, whoever isn't just coming for the money they are coming to work as hard as possible to rise up the ranks and get noticed back home of that i have no doubt.
Hopefully the club, players and fans will all benefit.
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| Quote ="easyWire"I don't think we can go any lower than we already are (especially with franchising potentially back on the cards at the end of next season) so I too will wait and see, even if I am a little deflated after the talk of Maguire and Pay.
At the end of the day if we do the basics well and the players put the effort in, we have some class there to make a difference. All depending of course on whether we can find an experienced half to steer us around the park. And I wasn't thinking of Matty Smith or Gidley, all due respect to both... I want a cocky, confident leader who's not afraid to rip into his comrades to get them going. Where's Shaun Edwards when you need him?'"
The answer is playing Union. England's Union playmakers Ford & Farrell are both from League stock.
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| Is it this Steve Price:
Or this Steve Price:
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| So Canterbury interview and announce already and yet we are still waiting. Oh hang on I forgot Due Diligence.
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"Is it this Steve Price:
Or this Steve Price:
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The gormless looking one
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| Quote ="karetaker"So Canterbury interview and announce already and yet we are still waiting. Oh hang on I forgot Due Diligence.'"
We are not first choice. First choice will be a gig as head coach in the NRL. Can't imagine that comes as any surprise to anyone, it even states as much in the Warrington Guardian. It does not mean the eventual appointee is without merit though.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"So, what's it to be, then?
We send our RL equivalent of Terry Waite (special envoy) out to Oz, to procure a top level coach, over a week ago, and we've still heard nothing from the club.
Did Fitzpatrick's luggage (containing his lucky underpants) go missing in Dubai, so he came back home without even getting down under?
Are the club coming over all coy with us, and saying "wouldn't you like to know" to Mike Parsons, every time he rings up?
Are we letting Smith leave, before an announcement is made?
Or,
Have we been knocked back more times than the pub drunk, when he makes a move for the unattached ladies near the dance floor, at ten to two, on a Saturday night?
Anyways, it all seems a little amateurish, to me. The longer this goes on, the more it looks like we've ended up with the 5th/6th/7th choice
Not good.'"
And another week goes by.
This really is looking like the bloke who's forgotten his anniversary, so he's gone to the nearest Esso garage for a half dead bunch of daffodils and a box of out of date Terry's All Gold.
Due diligence? Takeovers of multinationals have been handled quicker. I don't think it's that.
I think we've been blown out, more times than an airport wind sock, and we're now shopping from Asda's "whoops" shelf.
I think I might play "Amateur Hour" by Sparks. It seems quite apt.
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