Think you might be wrong on the Delaney one mate.
The VR plays the first offence i.e knock on by Hodgson.
Second offence is Leulai knocking on then Delaney is the third offence offside.
Briers doesn`t move his feet but dips his shoulder penalty is correct IMO.
Not sure Silverwood gave us everything either.
The punch on Ablett could have been a sin binning for Wood.
Overall no complaints the best team won.
We should have moved the ball out wide more instead of trying to take on your pack which again was imense.
Our strength is our offloads and we needed players like McGuire and dare I say it Webb to feed off those had they played.
Hope you stuff the Pies BTW

What puzzles me about that incident is how Leeds got a scrum out of it...the ref was clearly heard talking to the VR about a mistake being made as to whose scrum it was when in the first instance the scrum was given to Warrington then given to Leeds. As we know the tackle was deemed to be fair by the VR, so if there was no offside, according to the VR, & no Leeds knock on it was a perfectly good try.

from a wigan fan

congratulations best team won on the day ,had a great weekend well done

Why are folk still debating the Delaney No-Try? The rules are really quite straightforward, and its easy to surmise the ref's call:

Fair tackle --> Hodgson spills ball (1st knock on) --> Leuluai fumbles ball (2nd knock on) --> Scrum Attack (Leeds ball)

Delaney's offside doesn't even enter into it. The only confusion I see is the screen saying Scrum Defence and Silverpud awarding Scrum Attack, thus changing the judging (quite correctly). Here endeth the lesson.

We had the ball so Leeds were defending, Scrum Defence was the correct decision on the screen. All pretty clear cut and a little irritating that much of the media is reporting the incident as if Leeds were denied a legitimate try.

Yep. Language be a funny bugger - spot on.

I agree with both the above, it seems uninformed comment plus people that have not seen the replay of the incident.

And in any case, it would have made no difference to the result if a try had been allowed. Leeds simply didn't have the belief, the game plan or the personnel out there to win.

The Ratchford effort should have been a try.

Hodgson knocks on 1st

Finally someone picked up on that, yes it should of been there was no knock on anywhere in the build..

How can Hodgeson losing the ball backwards be a knock on and TBF Leuluai knocked it out and it went forwards off him Delaney was offside so it's a no brainer penalty for offside or reaping the ball in a two man tackle ! Which ever way u look at it , it wasn't a Leeds scrum !

Hahaha after watching it again I was thinking Why on earth has that not been mentioned on here, there was absolutely nothing wrong with it and had we gone 12 - 0 up that early it could have become a blowout scoreline.

100% correct

It was the correct decision....Hodgson lost the ball during the impact of the challenge, it was not a steal. The laws of the game state it is upto the ball carrier to carry the ball securely into the tackle, Hodgson didn't....Leuluai did knock on once the ball was loose, so the offside didn't even come into it.

I suppose you could be ultra-picky and say Hodgson lost it backwards, meaning it should have been a Wire scrum, but to be fair, in a situation like that, a ball carrier losing the ball will more often than not be judged to have knocked on....Hodgson had his lights knocked out, so it wasn't really a knock on, more his unconscious body releasing the ball involuntarily.

Watching it again this morning the ball goes back first and then bounces forward, so I think it should have been given. It should have been sent to the video ref for a check anyway.

We should have received a not square penalty a few minutes from half time, so a penalty goal there at least. As it was Leeds went down field and then got a 2 pointer.

We'll just let Mr Grumpy be bitter about that 1 definite no try.

Hodgson knocked on, which was complete when it hit Leulai. Leulai knocked it forward and Delaney was in front of him when he did. Never a try in a million years and correct decision was made.

Spot on - my view exactly.
Fair play to Hodge for saying it was a perfectly legal challenge.

Wow hodgeson Knocked on it was not ripped out it was a tremendous hit there is then a second knock on and delaney picks the ball up runs and puts ball over the line.

The VR is required sees what happens first offence hodgeson knock on. Now as leeds had just scored or without VR looked like they had surely they were the attacking team no?

I think 'scrum defence' was given since Leeds were the defending side prior to the first knock on by The Hodge, which is what the call was made on and what set off the 'chain of events'. The fact that Leeds came out on the attack is irrelevant, that is what happens with most calls like this; a team goes from defence to attack or vice-versa as a result of an incident that needs to be looked at.

I've never understood why they don't just put 'Scrum Warrington' or 'Scrum Leeds' up instead of 'Scrum attack/defence', it would make things a lot more simple.

A fellow Coach 4 rider! Fair play to Charlie he was rocking it until he tried his rendition of Alouette again



All in all a damn good day, big thanks again to the original stevo

They might as well put 'Possession to Warrington' or 'Possession to Leeds'

That doesn't tell you how to restart the game though

Because they only have one machine and it cant cope with being reprogrammed with the names of the playing teams each game. Don't worry, come next season SKY will have developed 3D technology that will allow the play to be superimposed on the pitch during the live game including measure graphics and GPS on the ball but we will all need special (expensive) glasses to see it.
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Either that, or its such a simply brilliant idea, the power that be have never thought of it!

Well done indeed. Thought we were lucky to be still in the hunt at HT. Our pack was just so weak that the real talent in the Rhinos team (our young Three-quarters) never had a chance to show what they can do. It was men against boys, although Peacock deserves credit. Our kicking game was pathetic (always easily read by Brett H) and yours was good. Generally a very poor game and I wish the Rhinos could have at least pushed the Wolves to at least make them fight for the trophy instead of the stroll it turned out to be.

Nice to see the Pies are as quick as ever to put the boot in to us. If we are so mediocre then what can you say for the team that was swept aside in the semi?

Would love to see Wire or Saints (or Leeds

) stuff the Pies in the play-offs or final.