I think you need to touch up on your grammar.



Surely that should be "if you were"?

you can have him...very average at best

Tomkins is no where near as good as the Wigan fans make out. They are suffering from castleford-itis wherby if a youngster makes the first team he is classified as a future GB international. He doesnt have that X factor that both Myler and Eastmond have. Dont get me wrong, hes alright and will make a SL career, but he wont be anything more than a matty smith/Luke Robinson type player

all the talk of getting a promising young lad in with plenty of scope.

the problem with that is that they will still need developing to progress to "star" status.

my point is, i don't think warrington have the capability of bringing that calibre of player on and getting him to the best in our game.

Warrington would have been better off bringing in someone like Dobson who is still very young and very proven.

I wanted saints to get him until he signed a new deal with kR.

My Knee jurk reaction to eastmonds performance last night leads me to think that there was no need to get dobson anyway.

This opens again highlights the issue over why our youth development isn't producing the quantity and quality of players that St Helens are producing.

This confirmed that you're a tit who hasn't a clue about the game, you gave us 100k to take him and he's been outstanding.

I've been watching Eastmood, Wheeler, Tomkins and Myler for well over 8 years now at Junior levels with St Pats and Blackbrook etc.
Eastmood and Wheeler are streets ahead of the rest in terms of pace, brain power and the kicking game. They will both cause havoc for Saints for the next 10years as 6 and 7. The fb Johnny Lomax was also a class act at Orrell St James as a 7, so i think Saints will have lots of back-up as well.
Worrying thing is We have not got any halfbacks either in the reserves or the acadamey that come close to this lot in terms of a)pace or b) taking the line on.
Wire will have to buy in talent in this area for a good few years, hopefully Myler will be first.

our head of junior development and head coach have got a track record of doing just that at Leeds

Its clear you havent seen the guy play week in week out. But you have seen Myler and Eastmond.

Interestng post.
I dont tend to watch that much academy level these days, nice to hear a slightly different take on things

noted, good response. time will tell

Please tell me you're joking.

I think this year there has just been what teachers call a cohort of talent. It happens sometimes. We signed up seven from our academy this season (Wheeler and Eastmond, Smith and Moore were from earlier cohorts) and already all but Foster and Maginnis (whose name I can't spell) have played in the first team during a league match. I think they all got injured as a result, bar Lomax who I have to say is amazing. Given that he has three plates in his head, he tackles like a flippin demon, is very versatile and has a great rugby brain (as do both Eastmond and Wheeler).

Rubbish, Tomkins is quick as well and can read a game better than Eastmond and Wheeler. Lomax is the real star I have played against this guy and he is awesome, future GB star.

The future looks bright.

Myler
Eastmond
Tomkins
Wheeler
Shenton
Roby
Graham
Hall
Lomax
Farrell
Mossop

All young players who should be playing international rugby now and in future years. I am sure there a few more but these are the ones I have seen the most of.

Add Harrison, Cooper and Mitchell to that list and yea it does look good

But unfortunately wont be good enough to beat the aussies

Steve Devereux would be so proud.

Eastmond is a very well rounded player. His electric pace and general confidence has allowed him to slot into the saints team in a number of positions out wide to get used to superleague. Whenever he's had the oppotunity at 7, however, he's jumped up in his level of performance. His organisation is good, his passing is slick and he's a constant threat with the ball in hand. His kicking game also seems pretty good. Also, after a couple of unsettling instances early on, he seems to have come to terms with the physicality of SL.

I've seen a lot less of tomkins, but what does strike me, in short, is that he's a bit of a - he's got that annoying bit of niggle that a [inasty[/i half back has. I expect him to turn out into a right canny player who the other fans will hate.

During the saints/wigan game at the JJB earlier this year, the level of all round skill displayed by both of the above in a tight physical game was outstanding.

If you look at the top, established, british scrum halves, you've got Long and Burrow, both of whom broke through on merit of their pace and evasion. In their early careers, their passing, kicking and organising ability was poor and something they've slowly leaned over the years (Long moreso than Burrow, but he had to because he's lost his pace).

Eastmond for sure has a much, much better half back's game than either of those two at the same age.

I've hardly seen Myler, but he's had the hardest job of them all and seems to be equitting himself very well. If he does move to wire it'll be very interesting to see how he goes.

Look out for Wheeler, though. He's going about his business, out of position, very well without any fuss - always strikes me as one of those who just [iknows how to play the game[/i. Classy.

THis.

Really? tomkins is a great young player but these two are the best young halfs coming through at the moment imho.

Wasn't Luke Robinson the next great British halfback?

Went down hill as soon as he left cas

Luke robinson is doing just fine, playing really well in a team third in the league.

3rd for now anyway.

Stevie D. Legend.