Will have to watch that Currie try back on TV not sure how he got over!!

They are really exposing Russell and Lineham under the high ball,got away with a couple but hope it doesn't cost us

Kev penny having a stormer... if i was saints, i would kick everything at Lineham.. he is struggling tonight.

We have won pretty much every collision, we are making loads of yards... im not sure how we are only winning by 2 points.. we went to sleep and saints scored 2 easy tries.

Were playing crap

this is not a good display.... had to happen sooner or later.

we look very flat and short of ideas.

good news is we are only 4 points behind and could still win it

How many?

Losing at home to the worst Saints side in history. What was it you said? LOvely stuff

Regards

King James

its comedy this.. kick a ball in behind us and were absolutely clueless.

saints have won this and they haven't even played well.

Absolute horror show tonight. Not a single positive to take from it. Errors all over the shop and a couple of key players have stunk the place out and cost us tries.

Don't think the bench helped at all tonight.

well done on being able to read.

Dont need to play particulary well when you are up against dross

Regards

King James

Absolute crap, that was a crap saints team

Disappointed with display tonight. My biggest gripe is why wasn't ratchford kicking for the confers ions. Or Gidley , I know he's carry a strain but what the difference in kicking in play ????

It still is and will be a crap saints team but they're kicking was superb and our defence was dreadful. A fully fit Gidley and we win that game because of goal kicking.

Despite my last post at least we showed a bit of fight at the end but too little too late.

Think Smith got the bench wrong tonight and the lack of props on the bench meant we didn't get a boost off the bench going forward or in defence.

Lineham should be given a rest after that performance. Russell was poor too but both can be excused somewhat as there were some good kicks put in under no pressure (when did we stop charging kicks down...).

Stains just about deserved it. We did bugger all for the best part of half an hour, when Stains were in the ascendancy.
The Penny haters will have to retreat under their rocks.
Goal kicking issues reminding me of the season before we bought Davies.
Great from Currie.

Regards

lefty goldblatt

The probl with us is we look to offload rather than run with the ball. Sandow always runs at the defence. We had to wait until the last 7 mins to see us start running at them instead of hot potatoing.

Smith has just said on Sky Gidley is rusty with kicking and still carrying a knock and if he practices kicking in the week, he wouldn't be playing! Nothing said about why Ratch wasn't though.

Cue the fan exodus and player bashing

My turn, Common denominator from this and the Hull match is Tom Lineham was exposed and was really vulnerable getting turned around

Russell was really poor defensively and was sat in the crowd when those high bombs were reigning down

Worst period of the match was when Clarke went off, lost impetuous and control with too many players being shuffled about and letting Saints dominate

Dust ourselves down and maybe rest one or two for the next match (Lineham please)

No scape goats please. We didn't want it enough after going 10-0 up and got casual. Go 10-0 down and different story.

No excuses for that. Should have beaten them. Our kicking is becoming an issue and it needs to be rectified. If we don't miss those kicks then we win, simple as that. Missed 3 of 4 attempts there and even with us being off the pace for some reason, it was still there for us to win. Gave it a good crack to come back in the last 5 minutes but we shouldn't have needed to. Currie and Atkins were great and the standouts. Gidley had a good game. Russell wasn't his best, he was very erratic in terms of quality of play. Lineham needs to buck up his ideas, he's a good player but he's got a head full of air, he isn't wired into what's going on at all.

Well if Gidley isnt able to goal kick we may aswell ket Wolfie take them.

im sorry, ive seen nothing at all to suggest he is a good player... diving into the corner a few times when he is already in doesnt show me he is a good player.

he cant break a tackle, catch a high ball, catch a pass when he is on the try line... and those 3 criticisms are from the last 2 weeks alone.

i think he is my new scapegoat.

if you dont do the basics right you wont win many games...we were awful against a team that wont figure in the top 4..and one last gripe why wasnt ratchford or gidley booting over the conversions....

We played with no intensity. Deserved to lose because of that despite possibly winning if we'd kicked our goals (again, same at Hull).

I saw more than enough at Hull to know Lineham can play extremely well. He's big, strong, and fast and I was quite happy when we signed him. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt right now because he's still settling into a new team and he's not got the best distribution so far if we're being fair. It's all well and good for Penny outside of someone like Currie but Tom is taking balls from Evans and Hughes, who aren't in the same league.

He needs to switch on his brain, for instance when he scored the try with less than 2 to go, he threw the bloody ball away, which wasted more time because we were trying to get a new one on the field. He nearly took the ball out from the Fages kick because he wasn't paying attention to where his legs were. Like I say, can be very good, but he doesn't think enough.

Genuine question: is Ratch really a preferable conversation kicker over anyone who can put boot to ball? That first game where we used him exclusively at Magic and he nailed 100% of his kicks was his only stand out kicking performance (that I can remember). Does anyone know his overall %? I would guess it's below 50%.

Hold on a minute...Lineham scapegoat? You have a gold fish memory. Slating me, barring me and scapegoat thrashing me for just questioning over his fitness!