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| Quote Abe Froman="Abe Froman"It's Josh Charnley that's made the accusation against McGuire. But there's no independent witness this time, so unless Leigh can come come up with evidence this won't go anywhere. I've not been told what was Charnley's alleging yet, but no doubt i'll find out.'"
Yes, I referred to the Charnley incident being put on report earlier.
From what I remember, Charnley and McGuire were not isolated from the other players and someone must have heard what was said, but decided to avoid any involvement once the ref decided to put the incident on report.
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| Well I heard him shout " you are very slow for a winger" ( admittedly I was in my kitchen at the time) so I would guess he will get at least a 12 match ban.
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| Quote Boss Hog="Boss Hog"Yes, I referred to the Charnley incident being put on report earlier.
From what I remember, Charnley and McGuire were not isolated from the other players and someone must have heard what was said, but decided to avoid any involvement once the ref decided to put the incident on report.'"
As far as I'm aware it has to be an independent witness. Leigh players won't count as they're not impartial.
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| Not sure if I read it correctly but if he does get cited it won’t be dealt with till next week, he would be free to play at magic.
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| Good job neither of the Joshes are the type to harbour grudges.
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| Quote Abe Froman="Abe Froman"As far as I'm aware it has to be an independent witness. Leigh players won't count as they're not impartial.'"
I thought last time it was a Leigh player that backed up Charnley ?
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| When will they announce if Leigh have submitted a complaint, I know the deadline is tonight.
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| Quote Captain Hook="Captain Hook"I thought last time it was a Leigh player that backed up Charnley ?'"
It was Charnley that confirmed that the ref had heard McGuire`s comments at the Disciplinary Hearing, and initially drew the ref`s attention to McGuire profanity.
Tom Amone was charged but although the ref heard the remark, he couldn`t be certain that Amone had made it.
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| Quote Boss Hog="Boss Hog"It was Charnley that confirmed that the ref had heard McGuire`s comments at the Disciplinary Hearing, and initially drew the ref`s attention to McGuire profanity.
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Snitches get stiches.
I do wonder what Alan Rathbone (God rest his soul) would make of it all.
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| Having watched the "incident" a few times ... if McGuire got a ban he might be the first ever to be found guilty of whispering sweet nothings in someone's ear.
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| Most of us could see McGuire allegedly said something to Charnley.
McGuire went for him and you saw him smiling following the incident.
This time it seems he kept it QT.
One word against another. It won’t hold up.
Going back to the first incident
, someone mentioned Amone…
I thought the RFL requested Amone to give evidence on what McGuire said,,,and he reluctantly gave evidence against him.
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| Quote Captain Hook="Captain Hook"I thought last time it was a Leigh player that backed up Charnley ?'"
No, the ref heard him.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"Most of us could see McGuire allegedly said something to Charnley.
McGuire went for him and you saw him smiling following the incident.
This time it seems he kept it QT.
One word against another. It won’t hold up.
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I thought the RFL requested Amone to give evidence on what McGuire said,,,and he reluctantly gave evidence against him.'"
No, Tom Amone was definitely charged, but got off, because although the ref heard a reply to McGuire`s cursing, he wasn`t sure that Amone had made the retort.
He didn`t give evidence against McGuire.
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| Quote karetaker="karetaker"https://www.rugby-league.com/article/61782/operational-rules-tribunal-%E2%80%93-may-30
OMG anyone heard any loud noises coming from St Helens
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Why would there be loud noises from St Helens? No one saw a punch, so no one has called for a ban either. It's the correct decision, if there was no punch, there should have been no card. It throws another puzzling concern in about the process itself, but no complaints about the verdict. Good to see some phantom cards happening to other clubs. I think we've had four this season.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Why would there be loud noises from St Helens? No one saw a punch, so no one has called for a ban either. It's the correct decision, if there was no punch, there should have been no card. It throws another puzzling concern in about the process itself, but no complaints about the verdict. Good to see some phantom cards happening to other clubs. I think we've had four this season.'"
Only four, that's very conservative of you.
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| Quote Smiffy27="Smiffy27"Having watched the "incident" a few times ... if McGuire got a ban he might be the first ever to be found guilty of whispering =#FF0000sweet nothings in someone's ear.'"
Brenda Leigh Leopards sounds rather daft.
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| So do we know if Leigh have put in an Official Complaint?
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| Now Tuesday has been and gone, Serious About Rugby League can confirm that the case will be considered by the Match Review Panel next Monday.
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| Putting aside whether you think the punishment does or doesn't fit the crime, if Maguire receives another similar length ban, then what's the point of paying him to spending 14ish games sat in the stand. Surely he would have to go, as there's zero possibility of the RFL changing the ban tariff in respect of such offences.
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| Hard to know what to make of it, to be considered by MRP next week, does that mean Leigh have registered a complaint or is the MRP just going to say NFA.
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| It’s now been said Leigh have provided evidence.
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| Something is very wrong about this, I mean why as it taken till Tuesday night to provide evidence that something was said. The game was Friday so if something was said by McGuire the proof was already there and should have been dealt with on Monday.
I’m no Columbo but I would be asking why take so long to say something I’d also be suspicious and think someone as been cohersed into corroborating a story. Just doesn’t sit right.
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| Due process I think. Leigh and the player(s) involved would need to decide of they wish to provide evidence, then draft a statement for the RFL and have that signed off by the legal team following the BH weekend?
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