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| I find the thought of us offering silly money to a coach to leave another club vulgar now.
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| Since Burgess went to favourite and then the betting disappearing I’m starting to think he as got the job.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"There are some jobs where the phrase "I wouldn't do that if they paid me a million quid" come to mind, as we found out from Holbrook.'"
Holbrook was booked on a flight. He backed out last minute because his wife didn’t want to move to the other side of the world. He had already accepted the offer.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Holbrook was booked on a flight. He backed out last minute because his wife didn’t want to move to the other side of the world. He had already accepted the offer.'"
See I’m finding this hard to believe, I have to think there must have been some sort of discussion in his household beforehand to then say no when he as agreed and then supposedly flying over but then declining because his wife says no, nah something else has happened. I mean come on they didn’t just turn up knock on his door and say hey you want a job.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Unfortunately we would be the ones getting laughed at now if we tried to get McNamara.
What would our pitch to him be - "give up your lifestyle in the south of France with a quality team and come to live in Warrington to sort out the mess we've made ourselves".'"
Exactly he is completely focussed on getting his team to be the just the 5th team to win a GF. He may have a chance.
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| Probably an unpopular view this, and he was rightly criticised when he was here, but I think Steve Price would of done really well with the current squad of players, tighten up the defence and leave the attack to Williams flair and the pace on the wings…
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| Quote ="BBTB"Probably an unpopular view this, and he was rightly criticised when he was here, but I think Steve Price would of done really well with the current squad of players, tighten up the defence and leave the attack to Williams flair and the pace on the wings…'"
If he left them alone to sort the attack sure. I was always vocal about Lee Briers and what he was doing because at times we couldn’t score if the try line was undefended. Then when Briers went to Wigan I started to think did Price just hold him back and focused to much on the defence.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Exactly he is completely focussed on getting his team to be the just the 5th team to win a GF. He may have a chance.'"
Does anyone read the previous thread on here.
The post started I hope Catalans win it this year and McNamara thinks project completed.
Warrington contact him with same deal offered to Holbrook.
Hopefully then thinks I fancy a new challenge. I’ll take Warrington on next season.
Long shot I know but by far stands out head and shoulders above everyone else mentioned previously apart from possibly Sean Wane.
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| Quote ="Sparky1967"Does anyone read the previous thread on here.
The post started I hope Catalans win it this year and McNamara thinks project completed.
Warrington contact him with same deal offered to Holbrook.
Hopefully then thinks I fancy a new challenge. I’ll take Warrington on next season.
Long shot I know but by far stands out head and shoulders above everyone else mentioned previously apart from possibly Sean Wane.'"
Exactly. Get a deal agreed for 2024. Don’t think Catalans will ever have a better chance than this year to win it.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Exactly. Get a deal agreed for 2024. Don’t think Catalans will ever have a better chance than this year to win it.'"
From what I hear Catalan are significantly the biggest club in the comp in terms of cash flow, they get significant numbers through their corporate hospitality. The new marquee rules will only help them further coupled with first pick of an improving French academy system.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"From what I hear Catalan are significantly the biggest club in the comp in terms of cash flow, they get significant numbers through their corporate hospitality. The new marquee rules will only help them further coupled with first pick of an improving French academy system.'"
Do you reckon if French RL continues to thrive, they will be able to play in their own league?
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Why would you not believe it?'"
Why would i belive it? Wane won Super League 3 times and won a challenge cup, Powell won the Hubcap in 2017.
So your telling me if Wane was available to us at the same time as Powell, we'd look at what they've done and dismissed a proven winner for someone who isn't? Absolutely no chance that would have happened.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Good post. At least Burgess would command some sort of respect from the players you’d like to think for what he’s achieved in the game - would Rowley?'"
He definitely would .... Round the nightlife with them, getting his round in... literally no meaningful coaching experience on top ..Still not heard one reasonable explanation why not Rowley ... just saying no or because it's Rowley isnt a measured reason... Josh Hannay has been mentioned over the last couple of days....upcoming assistant at cronulla.. building a reputation....he appears a reasonable alternative if he fancys wet England now ... Not sure about people continuing to mention Wane though as he is at interested as Holbrooks family was to coming here in reality
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| I think people would see Rowley is too similar to Powell. Able to work within a tight budget, bringing a disparate group of unknowns or journeymen together and able to achieve relative success…
Whether that’s transferable to make him successful at Warrington I’ve no idea?
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| Given that the Warrington club can't seem to keep any information quiet inside the club, the Holbrook deal being made so public means that any self respecting agent now knows what Warringtons top line offer is and so this will make negotiations all the more difficult as why would any decent coach settle for less?
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Given that the Warrington club can't seem to keep any information quiet inside the club, the Holbrook deal being made so public means that any self respecting agent now knows what Warringtons top line offer is and so this will make negotiations all the more difficult as why would any decent coach settle for less?'"
Not sure that has much do with Warrington and more to do with Holbrooks management. The press in Aus are all over deals like this.
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| Quote ="Nantwich One"He definitely would .... Round the nightlife with them, getting his round in... literally no meaningful coaching experience on top ..Still not heard one reasonable explanation why not Rowley ... just saying no or because it's Rowley isnt a measured reason... Josh Hannay has been mentioned over the last couple of days....upcoming assistant at cronulla.. building a reputation....he appears a reasonable alternative if he fancys wet England now ... Not sure about people continuing to mention Wane though as he is at interested as Holbrooks family was to coming here in reality'"
What’s Rowley ever achieved? He won promotion with a Leigh team who easily had the best team in the Championship. His Salford side have lost their last six games. Leigh have kicked on and improved since he left and since he joined Salford they’ve regressed to below where they were under Watson. He’s Powell mk 2.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Why would i belive it? Wane won Super League 3 times and won a challenge cup, Powell won the Hubcap in 2017.
So your telling me if Wane was available to us at the same time as Powell, we'd look at what they've done and dismissed a proven winner for someone who isn't? Absolutely no chance that would have happened.'"
It happened believe me. Can you honestly see Wane getting on with Karl? Wane wouldn’t take him at all and would probably want him gone within a week. The board at Warrington are scared of how much Wane would shake things up.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"What’s Rowley ever achieved? He won promotion with a Leigh team who easily had the best team in the Championship. His Salford side have lost their last six games. He’s Powell mk 2.'"
The only thing in common with Powell is they are both English...the current Salford squad is small in number and hit by sales and injuries so not buying into their mini slump to justify he wouldn't be e right ... That team is more than capable at full strength of beating anyone else in the competition and he is very much is at the heart of its philosophy.. something we dont have
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| Shaun Wane lost Wigan over 5000 attendance figure during his take over of a very successful team. Hence his push from IL, however they want to dress it up as.
He has not displayed the qualities Wire require.
You only have to look at England to see that.
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| Wigan might not of played a particularly attractive brand of rugby under Wane but it was at least successful, and is it realistically any worse than what we’ve seen for the last 5-10 years? Or for that matter out of sync with the way the game is played in general these days…
Off topic, but the flair of Lachlan Lam at Leigh is an absolute breath of fresh air for super league…
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| Quote ="Nantwich One"..Still not heard one reasonable explanation why not Rowley ... just saying no or because it's Rowley isnt a measured reason... '"
Because his CV reads like a poor man's Daryl Powell and we have just sacked the actual Daryl Powell?
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Because his CV reads like a poor man's Daryl Powell and we have just sacked the actual Daryl Powell?'"
Love how one of his reasons is ‘his team can beat anyone in the comp on their day’. So can any team. Hudds beat Catalans away, Wakey beat us. It’s not a prerequisite for becoming a coach.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Love how one of his reasons is ‘his team can beat anyone in the comp on their day’. So can any team. Hudds beat Catalans away, Wakey beat us. It’s not a prerequisite for becoming a coach.'"
To be honest, I've nothing against Rowley and, if he was appointed, I'd support him and wish him the best - I'd just be very underwhelmed and not have very high expectations.
Ultimately, if its a choice between someone like Rowley and a young, ambitious NRL assistant coach, then it has to be the latter for me.
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| Agreed. Everything about Rowley in the summary above could replicate Powell at Cas.
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