Peacock looks to me as though he may be carrying an injury so I would leave him out if that is the case.

S Briscoe
Smith
Eastmond
Shenton
Hall
Tomkins
Myler
Morley (captain)
Roby
Graham
Burgess
Ellis
Sinfield

Crabtree
Carvell
Westwood
Bridge

A bit O/T but that would have been a combination and a half

TONY Myler and Lee Briers

I know he played for Widnes but what a quality stand off he was and with Briers putting him through the gaps.

Sinfield did for England what Monaghan did for us in the semi final vs Wigan. Very clever play from acting half.

My sole concern about Myler is that for a young lad he seems to lack a yard of pace ...

Your joking right?

You didn't see the game where he went 70 metres against Leeds at Headingley earlier in the season then? leaving Danny Mcguire in his trail.

now you see, a week ago, that would've impressed me a bit, however having watched england at the weekend and having seen a second rower leaving mcguire in his trail, sort of ruins that point.

Why would Smith give a about picking Warrington players for England?

Surely when Big Martin Offiah came to negotiate his contract he started going blah blah my client is an international Test star pay him this and that. If Smith had wanted to he could have pulled the line of "well he's not the finished article yet" and left him in the international wilderness to keep his wages down at Warrington.

Also why risk a player getting injured, surely would be far better to pick Leon Pryce and let him get tramped on by the Aussies while Myler is getting himself fit for us.....

To beat the kiwis something has to change, Danny McGuire just isn`t cutting it at international level and you can`t carry any passengers in the pivots at this level.

Before the tournament started i stated that we looked weak in the centres, half backs (Tomkins aside) and at hooker, personally i would go with this line up for saturday given the fact that Kevin Sinfield has been one of our best organisers so far and that Tomkins has caused problems to one of the best sides in the world.

Its not the side i would choose from all the avilable players in England, its based on whats in the squad.

1. S Briscoe
2. L Smith
3. M Shenton (Has played right centre at Cas in the past)
4. K Eastmond (played left centre well at saints)
5. R Hall
6. K Sinfield (We need some sort of organistaion, Sinfield can switch to 9)
7. S Tomkins
8. J Graham
9. J Roby (Not ideal given his recent form)
10. J Peacock
11. B Westwood (simply for work rate, not many other options)
12. G Ellis
13. S Burgess

14. ?????
15. A Morley
16. E Crabtree
17. ?????

I can't believe people are persisting with Roby.

Thats something you should be asking Tony Smith and ask him why he picked Roby for the 4 nations ahead of Diskin given his form this season and in the warm up games.

I wouldn`t have Roby in an english team at the min on form but if you watched Scott Moore in the challenge cup final i certainly wouldn`t start him either, the Giants looked far more dangerous when Lunt was on the pitch. I put Roby in because you can switch Sinfield later if Roby is his usual self, its picking from whats available and from what Tony Smith picked as his 4 nations squad.

Smith
Briscoe T.
Bridge
Shenton
Hall
Tomkins
Myler
Peacock
Sinfield
Morley
Ellis
Westwood *
Burgess

Crabtree
Carvell
Graham
Eastmond

shaun briscoe
smith
ellis
bridge
hall
tomkins
eastmond
morley
sinfield
peacock
westwood
jjb
burgess

graham
crabtree
roby
carvell

its a shame we are thinking about playing players out of position already.....especially when the aussies have state of origin hookers to rotate between. Here we are thinking of putting a centre, or a loose forward there.......!!!

christ even France have a decent hooker......

but that said as long as Lee smith and Danny mcguire dont get a sniff of a game i'll be happy... (oh yeah and Tomkins gets one of them wedgey body slams again)

Me neither.

I've said all along that Sinfield is an ideal 9.

Watch the game again on Saturday and notice how the tempo of our attack picks up when we have someone who can pass the ball from dummy half.

Playing Peacock in the second row didn't help us and Mozza probably had his most ineffective game I've ever seen from him.

I'd be tempted to play Bridge in place of Smith. it's a pity O'Loughlin is injured because he could have done that defensive job that we were so lacking.

So the back three would be Burgess, Westwood and Wilkin.

Starting props Graham and Peacock

Subs Morley, Crabtree, Roby and McGuire

Briscoe at fullback
Briscoe and Hall on the wings
Bridge and Shenton in the centres.
Eastmond and Tomkins at half backs.

I wouldn't drop Ellis, he really turned it on in the second half.

Oh

Elliss in.
Burgess sub

Roby out

Sorted.

I'd pick Eastmond at 7 and tomkins at 6. I'd rather have Sinfield at 6 than mcguire

Because he is probably, Englands best defender. Watch the tackles he makes during a game.

However, is this enough to warrant a place? I dont know, because in attack, he wasnt as bad as people are making out, but was defo outshone by sinfield.

Wow. How many times can you contradict yourself in just two sentences?

No, read it again. Its not my fault you are too stupid to understand basic english. Maybe if you didnt have such an unhealthy obsession with men covered in oil, touching each other up, you may have learnt to read. I will spell it out for you.

Roby was great in defense, but not so good in attack as Sinfield. So on this basis, does he warrant a place in the side?

Capital 'E' for English, please.

Good comeback.

Now go and watch some wrestling with the rest of the 10 year olds

Some of Roby's distribution from dummy half along with McGuire's was shocking at times

Eh?