Last two posts sum it up, we were due a reminder and got it today. Russell isn't super league standard anymore unfortunately. His knock on from that Watkins offload would've been gobbled up by a half decent SL winger.

We were all pants today, but he doesn't feel like he fits in with burgess team, he's a bit of a square peg

Gutted, more for Hayes than anything else. These are the games we should win to have any joy.

Collectively all off the ball today with Harrison and Williams maybe the exceptions.

Walker needs to calm down and his team mates need to do that I thought I was watching Captain frantic Brad Dwyer at times.

Russell was poor and with Ratchford at centre I felt we had no threat on either edge. Salford were letting that ball over the top knowing that Russel couldn't hurt them, his defence under high balls and that knock on, were painful.
Will do the watchback but let's hope it's a wake up and we go again.

The cracks are starting to show now aren't they. Right on cue. Walker had his worst game in a Wire shirt I thought, but then most didn't come away with much. King I thought was very good though.

Poor Russell. He played OK for us last year so a bit harsh to write him off yet.
It was touch & go today & against Leigh. But Wigan, Catalan & Saints looked poor this week. You just can't expect to win & play well every week.
Our forward interplay has been sussed. I'd like the Salford centres. So sorry for Hayes ... wot a lovely lad.

It was a poor, bitty sort of game, low on quality, but could have gone either way. You get peaks and troughs during a season - the Saints game was a peak and we have dipped since. Not sure about that penalty try, though. The ball was bouncing back out of the in-goal area, so a big call to say he would definitely have scored.

We were poor to average and were still looking like winning it until that penalty try. Shame Vaughan didn't get that ball down just before otherwise that would have sealed it. Salford are a decent side. But i always feel they raised their game against us. They're always tight games against them. We're always going to lose games but in previous seasons it was always the manner of them. I cannot say the same this season. We have always been in it until the end. Draw a line under it and move on to next week.

I thought that performance was absolutely abysmal to be honest. We’ve played a Salford side who didn’t play well and a 30% per cent performance would have got us over the line. Bar Williams and Hayes the rest of em were dreadful.

Lindop must be injured otherwise he needs to come in (or Lynch) if Ashton is injured and Ratchford and Russell should never trouble the first team again unless for an absolute emergency.

Vaughan also needs a good day talking to.

It’s about time we started getting serious links to a prop forward.
Especially as Dudson was arguably the best prop in the second period.

Once again Vaughan is not making me eat my own words.

Awful fare from two poor sides today unfortunately.

Feel for Hayes, that didn't look good.

The tackling for Salford's 1st try was pathetic kids could do better..we got what we deserved.. Huddersfield will be hoping this wire team turn up for the semi final

We made their pack look really good, even after they lost Vuniyayawa.
We definately need another big prop, not a second rower/prop but an out and out Prop.
The whole team just looked Tired to me, everything was slower and sloppier with no aggression this week.
Gutted for hayes, looks like his season is over with a snapped ankle

I’m no doctor but looking at the footage(no pun intended) I’m guessing at least a year, it looked really bad.

Lindop hobbled off injured in a game about a month ago. I have not seen him in any of the Academy/Reserves games since then, so I assume he is still injured?

Not heard anything about Lynch since he was loaned-out to North Wales Crusaders for a season long loan.

I would have preferred to see Kai Taylor-Wray make his debut on the wing, instead of Russell.

Russell just isn`t Super League standard and should be playing in the Championship.

Yeah i like Russell and i've always thought he was a decent utility squad player, dependable and solid. But he he had an absolutely stinker yesterday, really really bad, but the squad as a whole weren't great, hopefully just one of those off games.

Last year we entered a slump after a tough away win in the cup and never recovered (4 wins from 17 remaining games).

Be interesting to see if Sam can get us back to our best.

The backs always look poor when the pack is second best…

Has Vaughan been found out?
Do Burgess and Vaughan get along?
Is there jealousy that 3 years ago Burgess was an equal to Vaughan, and now he’s his boss?
Is Vaughan half the player for Burgess?

There’s something not right with Vaughan, no idea what but he’s not himself at all.

The pack was weirdly poor yesterday and the interchanges seemed odd to me.

Yes I think that the pack was poor as was the team in general.

Salford deserved the points IMO because they played for and got the game they wanted they effectively did to us what we did to Saints recently.

The game wasn't a forward game at all as Salford wanted, it was scruffy and scrapy as they wanted it, and most importantly the game played out wide where they had the advantage with Lafai and Macdonald

Vaughan's stats show he was head and shoulders our most effective prop forward with 80m.

Need to be looking at Philbin and Bullock who managed 26.

All the very best to Hayes who looks to have a giant heart for such a small lad.
We had someone similar in Robbie Burrow.
Hope the lad makes a full recovery as it looked a very bad injury.

O don't think there's much to "find out" with Vaughan. He's hard as nails, is a big unit and he's gonna drive his legs after collision. No fancy trickery with him, he's just a bloody good
prop forward.

Off game for the team, stats say Vaughan was making meters as he does best. He missed 2 games from a ban and then didn't come straight back into the team once he'd served it because we were playing well.

I don't get this rubber ... what's this Vaughan hate thing? It just doesn't make sense.
Mind you I was very impressed with Ormondroyd, Lafai & Macdonald. Ormondroyd & Lafai are aged 32 but Macdonald is 20 and might change our back play a bit.

McDonald will be 30 in a couple of weeks time Smiffy.

We've lost to a decent Salford team as quite a few teams will were up there in top 4 and in semi final of challenge cup which is better than what I expected hopefully a a win against hull Friday