Thewlis and Wrench have already made a "couple of errors" and people are still calling for them to be in the team so your sweeping statement is wrong. In my experience our fans love a youngster giving it a go and trying to win a spot. Admittedly the "home grown newness" wears off after a couple of years a la Dec Patton and they end up having their performances discussed and even criticised.

I think you'll be hard pushed to find anyone who would want Minikin and Matautia back should Thewliss and Wrench have a couple of off matches on the bounce. They can't play any worse for Pete's sake (pun intended)

Admittedly they haven't been dropped for Wigan, they are/were injured so mute point for recent match, but sentiment stands for Powell's tenure.

I agree with what you are saying, but its a lot easier being a youngster going into a side at a club with an established record of winning trophies and of blooding and developing young players, than it is at a club where fans are absolutely desperate for success and to have just a couple of young players they can get excited about.

Our problem is that we want every young player who pops up to be the next big thing and that expectation leads to unnecessary pressure, on both the player and for the club in how to handle them.

At clubs like Wigan and Saints, they can simply point to the fans and say look at our record and trust the system - We, sadly, don't have that to fall back on.

Well I think with your last paragraph you've hit your own nail on your own head because our record doesn't stand up to theirs.

So what do we do then learn from it try and emulate or toss it off for players who aren't even journeymen IMO

Matautia or Wrench? There's no need for a debate, as only one of those two should have a future at our club.

Of course you try and emulate them. My point was it's easier to respond to critical fans if you have a proven record that the young players will come good, as is the case with criticism that Dodd was getting from Saints fans - We don't really have that record, do we?

But why do 95% of the fan base see it but the coach doesn’t? Is it ego or stubbornness with Daryl? Genuine question.

Must be for his goalkicking record.

Daryl likes Matautia as in Daryl’s words he can play 1.3,6, 11,13 and what other players can do that? Well, like Peter, I can also play in those positions to a terrible standard. Sky pundits on Friday were highlighting the need for specialist players not one size fits all mediocrity.

There's a reason fans are fans - if they were as knowledgeable as many claim they are, then they'd be coaches too??...

Are you happy with Peter Matautia being a certainty in DP's teams selection?

Not d. When we were winning 8 on the bounce, his place in the team wasn't really an issue, now we aren't doing so well, it seems its all down to him apparently?

Personally, I think our problems right now go a lot further than it simply being about having Matautia in the team or not.

Of course it's easier IF you have the record.

I'm sorry if my point was too subtle but as we don't have that record and neither does this coach here then let's just crack on doing the same old same old and see how that works.out shall we?

Get beat v Wakefield and he'd rightly need his position at this club assessed IMO.

I'm looking for a sign a sign of improvement a sign that we are moving in the right direction and to get this thread back on topic rather than the usual anti Powell cat calling making the most of your resources is one of the first things that the coach needs to address.

They are his resources BTW including the clubs younger players where apparently at Cas that seemed to be one of his suits

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