Attack has been terrible. We have 8 points. Pretty fair criticism.

At this stage I don't see anything in Williams performance that merits his inclusion - people can bash Rashford but he's made a couple of line breaks.

But boy are we dumb. The refs an idiot but we're giving him every excuse to punish us

Like I’ve just said Liam Moore is an absolute tosspot.He must hate this club.Would love to see the penalty count.

Yeah, that one was a nonsense

Haha. Well done Liam Moore. Pettiest two penalities i've seen in a long while and sending that Pierce one up as a try was debatable. He single handedly killed the game in the past 5 minutes.

He’s just penalised Clark + Ratchford for nothing but you must be watching wendy ball as he’s been shocking from what I’ve watched.

Agree. Williams has done nothing. Not good.

Defence has been better. Their bigger pack has started to dominate. Helped by some rubbish calls. Young lads have shown up well again.

Another game ruined by Liam Moore

We are absolutely toothless I’m afraid.

Bobbins

Agree about Williams.A massive disappointment considering what he’s earning.

Williams has no tactical kicking ability, he's a good player but that's not one of his talents. Why oh why is he kicking on the last every time when he simply can't provide any effective tactical kicking! We are clueless in attack, the effort is there but they're just improvising constantly.

The kick chase is embarrassing, they're steaming down the middle unopposed really, again the line speed is awful. Thewlis is injured now which is massively unfortunate for us.

Moore is once again showing how appalling he is as a referee, there have been some very, very dubious calls especially in the soft pens which ruined the game.

Credit catalans they're just better than us and fully deserve the win.

More embarrassment

This is a collapse of epic proportions.Saints could do 50 on Thurs.

When Gil Dudson and Sam Kasiano have better hands than your own half backs.

Low balling that number a bit lol

John Wells spunking all over the place. Wanting the rules disregarded because the try was good the absolute whopper.

Leaving out dean was a big mistake our kicking was better with him, I hope Williams will be singled out by Powell for hopeless kicking this week. Dean, thewlis, wrench and longstaff would be the first names on the team sheet for me for the rest of the season, it's a write off anyway, let them have as much time to develop as possible.

I won't be disappointed with a whole new pack next year save bullock. Philbin isn't a prop he's an impact second row, more and more I feel he's been thrown to the wolves in the front row he isn't big enough for it and makes no impact whatsoever. Why did we re sign Jason Clark? Again the youngsters were our best performers.

The last 10 minutes was embarrassing.

Nothing i wasn't expecting to be honest, the season is gone and we'll get maybe 5 more wins this season. It's not gonna suddenly turn around and click in to place, just waiting on next year now

This. If I had one question only to put to Powell it would be "You publically criticised a young player for his kicking game yet his replacement failed to find touch, grass, split the full back and winger or deliver anything other than laser guided kicks to hands. Happy?"

I'd honestly have Price back on Monday.

God no, I would rather just stop watching rugby league, out of sight out of mind.

I'm not sure Powell is the right man, our kick chase and line speed have been awful all year, these are basics, but they're fundamental within successful sides if he can't instill basics then that's a worry, dropping Dean who has been our best half this season was a massive error as well.

BUT, don't forget how boring and poor we were under price, I would say that steve Price is the worst coach I've ever seen including plange etc. Price had a full salary cap and a lot of good players at the peak and he wasted the opportunity. The rugby we played was appalling, if we went a score down, we lost, the toothless attack is a hangover from price but I also don't understand why Powell can't change it?

Thursday will be embarrassing and painful. Not sure we have reached rock bottom yet.

Yes, it was awful to watch under Price other than two glorious games against St Helens and we were dreadful in knock out games after his first year, but what was hiis overall win percentage? We certainly won a lot more than we lost.

Note, I am not suggesting for a moment that he should still be here.

My post was over-emotional but I can't identify a single area of improvement. The only sources of any optimism are Wrench and Thewlis, and I don't think Powell can take much credit for them.