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| Quote ="CW8"2 successive coaches never gave Rob Butler a chance which suggests to me either he wasn't up to scratch or he didn't make a good impression off the field.
Never heard of Rob Bulter
though he coule be great.'"
Tricky one. Lots of players fail at one club only to find their place at another.
Very few people at Leeds or Wakefield rated McShane but he’s done ok for Cas.
Who knows.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Have you recently spent some time on Degobah and picked up the lingo?'"
I had to have a Google and I'm afraid that my post was nothing more than simply pulling up a member of the Grammar Police and our very own 'Forum Yoda' Fan Club
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"He might not be the best, BUT..... if we get injuries/suspensions in the prop area, then we're goosed.
If you're skint, do you lend people money?'"
In this instance, Powell must feel like he's giving away some Italian lira. Looks good but absolutely useless.
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| Quote ="Douglas Black"Do we support Powell or not? If he's the right coach for us, then we must assume he thinks that Hughes, J Clark, Davis offer more as "middles" than Butler. He sees them training day in, day out. He sees (and analyses better than any fan can) what the overall contributions of those players are.
EDIT - add Philbin to my list given the simultaneous post.'"
He was brought into get us playing like Cas…and he’s done it.
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| If you're a prop and you can't currently get a game at Warrington then maybe rugby league is the wrong sport for you!
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| Hopefully it's to make space for a new prop. We were reportedly offering up to 100k for Blake Ferguson maybe we need a touch more to get a prop in as replacement ?
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| Can't hurt to let him go, 2 coaches didn't think he was good enough and he was out of shape when we signed him and never got back in shape.
Can't see him being on a big wage but free's up Salary cap along with Doro's which might be enough to sign a better prop short term?
James Harrison is about 4-5 weeks away so will be a plus in the forwards.
We don't know the master plan until it happens and until we get rid of all the dead wood and sign replacements we won't know what's happening next year either.
Powell knows what to do and will have a plan in place so i'm trusting his judgement and experience and will wait and see what that plan is
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| Quote ="vastman"Tricky one. Lots of players fail at one club only to find their place at another.
Very few people at Leeds or Wakefield rated McShane but he’s done ok for Cas.
Who knows.'"
I genuinely hope he does do well at Wakey, his career somewhat stalled at wire, he was injured at the start I think and he never managed to fight his way in. I'm not sure why, but it's definitely better for him to be moving on from a career point of view.
If this frees up some cap space for us to move on a forward who will be part of the plans for the future then it can't be a bad move for us either. If we don't sign anyone though then it seems a bit pointless and if we get a few front row injuries we could be on even more trouble with the front row.
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I'd take Vaughan all day. Very good player.
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I'd take Vaughan all day. Very good player.
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| Was it said Harrison ready by June.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"I'd take Vaughan all day. Very good player.'"
With releasing both Doro and now Butler, it looks like we are clearing the decks to sign a prop now.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"With releasing both Doro and now Butler, it looks like we are clearing the decks to sign a prop now.'"
The mole said he's hearing the Vaughn to Warringron rumours are False and he's right the majority of the time.
But we'll have at least 2 props lined up for next year, the fact we are in talks with Dufty tells me Ratchford is off at the end of the year as well, so we're gonna have a massive amount of cap to re-build with. Although i would rather have Thewlis take the no.1 spot rather than bringing an import in.
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| Quote ="Or thane"The mole said he's hearing the Vaughn to Warringron rumours are False and he's right the majority of the time.
But we'll have at least 2 props lined up for next year, the fact we are in talks with Dufty tells me Ratchford is off at the end of the year as well, so we're gonna have a massive amount of cap to re-build with. Although i would rather have Thewlis take the no.1 spot rather than bringing an import in.'"
I too will be extremely disappointed, if we sign Dufty.
There is no point in having an Academy Team, if we are just going to recruit players from the NRL and ignore players that we have developed ourselves, such as Thewlis.
I was hoping that when Powell signed for us, that he would have the nous to realise that the Salary Cap constraints means that we can`t buy success, and that we should sign players from the NRL to supplement our home grown players.
We don`t need Dufty, but we do need at least 2 props and a bruising 2nd rower from the NRL
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"If you're a prop and you can't currently get a game at Warrington then maybe rugby league is the wrong sport for you!'"
Should do well for us then as we only have one prop who isn't still in nappies.
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| Rhys Kennedy I heard this season.
Vaughan being as a possible target for 2023.
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| I can't see Powell letting Butler go mid-season unless he has a plan in place to replace (and improve) the pack with pretty much immediate effect. It makes no sense otherwise. I hope to hear an announcement from the club asap about a replacement.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Rhys Kennedy I heard this season.
Vaughan being as a possible target for 2023.'"
Take it to the bank everybody….
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Rhys Kennedy I heard this season.
Vaughan being as a possible target for 2023.'"
Not sure about Kennedy coming for this season as he's playing each week for Brisbane. He'd be much needed this season though so fingers crossed we can get him this year as he was rumoured to be coming next year anyway.
Heard we've already signed Tanginoa for next year as well, if we have would we play him at prop or second row where he has played his best games?
Keep hearing Dudson and Kasiano are still coming, so we'd have a massively beefed up pack for next year.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Not sure about Kennedy coming for this season as he's playing each week for Brisbane. He'd be much needed this season though so fingers crossed we can get him this year as he was rumoured to be coming next year anyway.
Heard we've already signed Tanginoa for next year as well, if we have would we play him at prop or second row where he has played his best games?
Keep hearing Dudson and Kasiano are still coming, so we'd have a massively beefed up pack for next year.'"
You do find this time in the NRL season, that there’s almost one club fat on the salary cap, I’m not saying they are,
Rhys Kennedy fits our mould, Vaughan is at the backend, I would prefer another season or 2 with Cooper than Vaughan tbh, Coops has kept himself in good condition and shows little evidence of slowing just yet.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Not sure about Kennedy coming for this season as he's playing each week for Brisbane. He'd be much needed this season though so fingers crossed we can get him this year as he was rumoured to be coming next year anyway.
Heard we've already signed Tanginoa for next year as well, if we have would we play him at prop or second row where he has played his best games?
Keep hearing Dudson and Kasiano are still coming, so we'd have a massively beefed up pack for next year.'"
Tanginoa is a done deal. Still need 2 props though!!
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Tanginoa is a done deal. Still need 2 props though!!'"
Maybe Butler was part of the deal then?
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Maybe Butler was part of the deal then?'"
Yeah i was thinking that, to help ease the loss of Tanginoa maybe?
I hope he starts in the second row as he's has some unreal games there, and tore defences apart being able to run outwide. Maybe he takes 12 and Holmes to 13, or Currie to 13 and Holmes back to the left side where he's always played? I'm excited for Tanginoa to come in
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Tanginoa is a done deal. Still need 2 props though!!'"
You reckon do you
That was the reaction I got from those in the know when I suggested this, they called it wishful thinking, but they could just be great poker players.
That said I think Tanginoa is spent so I'll happily take you hard earned
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| Quote ="vastman"You reckon do you
That was the reaction I got from those in the know when I suggested this, they called it wishful thinking, but they could just be great poker players.
That said I think Tanginoa is spent so I'll happily take you hard earned
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He seemed to start off really well in the back row but then got shifted to play in the middle. What drove that move to play in the middle rather than out wide? Did an injury force it? Do see him primarily as a middle unit player rather than a back row these days?
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