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| Quote ="Deus Dat Incrementum"Apologies if I didn't get my point across very well.
My post was not intended to have a dig at Moran, Burrell or anybody else for that matter. Like I said I will be eternally grateful for what Simon Moran has done for this club. I also hoped that Burrell would turn out to be a great move and I was as excited as the next person when we signed Inglis.
My point about Russell was that I found it strange that when he signed he referenced a conversation with Simon Moran.
I just don't see that happening at successful clubs. I don't read every football article so people can feel free to show me an article to prove me wrong but I just can't see Man City signing a player and that player coming out saying I had a good natter with Sheikh Mansour or man utd signing a player and that player saying I had a chat with David Gill.
My personal opinion (may be wide of the mark) is that some signings are not completely signed off by the coach. The article about Russell is probably a poor example because I think Tony Smith was after that type of player.
I know that most coaches in the world would happily welcome Andrew Johns. Not so sure that most would have signed GI after 2 years out.
Like I say this is just my personal opinion that some appointments or contract extensions have been influenced by people above TS and Price and that it is hard to say no when the CEO or owner suggests something especially based on the investment that they have put in.
I dont have any evidence for that so it is just a feeling based on what I hear and read. Would Lee Briers have been appointed or given as long as assistant coach without the longstanding relationship with the club. Did Price go to KF and say "we need a prop and I see Tasi is available, can you see if you can get him here" and then not play him. I know the burrell signing ws low risk from a cap perspective but was it a risk from a "team" perspective.
Sometimes helping out with the best intentions can have unintended consequences. I just don't see organisations operating like that with Guardiola or Ferguson being involved.
So yes, I am a bit of a conspiracy theorist, not quite at the level where I think the US goverment blew up the twin towers.'"
I must admit I read it as Simon Moran may have spoken to him to share the vision of the club and where it was planning on going etc. Maybe Russell needed some persuading.
I think one thing we can say for sure is that our signings during this 8 year period have yielded quite a high number of unsuccessful outcomes but the 2021 recruitment appears, with the exception of Inglis to be a lot better than previous years.
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Luis Johnson
Charnley
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"I've got to say, i will be more than a little miffed if Smith actually manages to win the grand final with hull kr when he couldnt do it here with the team he had.'"
Dont worry mate it won't happen..if they do see off cats saints will Muller them in final.. |
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"I've got to say, i will be more than a little miffed if Smith actually manages to win the grand final with hull kr when he couldnt do it here with the team he had.'"
Let’s be honest. The standard from Wire Wigan Leeds we’re massive compared to now. Any of those 3 teams would absolutely smash SL over the last 5/6 years. |
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If you ask me, I can’t think of single person better for the C.E.O role than Paul Cullen.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"If you ask me, I can’t think of single person better for the C.E.O role than Paul Cullen.'"
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| Quote ="PISol"
It’s that sort of sentimental nonsense that is one of the reasons the club doesn’t progress like it should.'"
That is true but at the same time I’d take Cullen as coach over Price any day of the week. That’s how bad a coach Price is. |
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"If you ask me, I can’t think of single person better for the C.E.O role than Paul Cullen.'"
Cullen as CEO
Alex Murphy as Director of Rugby
Phil Chadwick as Head of Strength and Conditioning
John Kear as Head Coach
John Woods as Halfbacks and kicking coach
Des Drummond as Outside backs coach
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Cullen as CEO
Alex Murphy as Director of Rugby
Phil Chadwick as Head of Strength and Conditioning
John Kear as Head Coach
John Woods as Halfbacks and kicking coach
Des Drummond as Outside backs coach
Les Boyd as Forwards coach
Rubber Duckie as personal chauffeur to CEO Cullen'"
Billy Whizz as sprint coach.
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Jon Clark as strength and conditioning
Martin Gleeson as attack coach.
Just because somebody was a player with us doesn't mean they won't turn out to be pretty damn good in a coaching role afterwards.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Billy Whizz as sprint coach.
Hesford as kicking coach.
Rathbone (rest his soul) as Pack Enforcer Development Officer'"
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"Seeing as most job titles are shortened down to initials I'd give Alan rathbones a re jig'"
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Cullen as CEO
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John Kear as Head Coach
John Woods as Halfbacks and kicking coach
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Les Boyd as Forwards coach
Rubber Duckie as personal chauffeur to CEO Cullen'"
I can’t argue that line up, got to challenge the Wigan reveal yesterday. |
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I can’t argue that line up, got to challenge the Wigan reveal yesterday.'"
That's a good point. I wonder which of us and Wigan will win a Grand Final next? |
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| Quote ="Wires71"That's a good point. I wonder which of us and Wigan will win a Grand Final next?'"
Easy that mate..Wigan.... |
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Cullen as CEO
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John Kear as Head Coach
John Woods as Halfbacks and kicking coach
Des Drummond as Outside backs coach
Les Boyd as Forwards coach
Rubber Duckie as personal chauffeur to CEO Cullen'"
John Woods as halves coach? Christ yeah! In fact he could probably still do a job on the field. |
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