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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Didn't Sita start his career on the wing?'"
Not sure we can afford a winger who does 10 minutes each half!
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| [urlhttps://www.superleague.co.uk/match-centre/preview/3366[/url
Looks as though Salford don't have the squad depth in order to rest so many. If we win this one it would be the result of the season. A chance for a few of the young lads to stake a claim for more game time as the season progresses.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Didn't Sita start his career on the wing?'"
He has certainly played there because I can remember a clip showing him crashing over, but I haven't the faintest idea whether or not is was a regular spot for him.
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| Sky are on the phone now desperately trying to head shots for their graphics for some kids theyve never heard of.
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| that beint said, its nice to be able to throw out a bunch of kids in a game when our choice rather than in an injury situation.
2007 against Leeds down here comes to mind, and another game that was on during the football World cup
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| Salford only named 17
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Salford only named 17'"
10 out of that 17 played on Thursday and quite a few that will be expected to play in the semi final. Our young lads won't be looking to win this one but they will want to give Salford a game.
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| Quote ="St Helens Wolf"10 out of that 17 played on Thursday and quite a few that will be expected to play in the semi final. =#FF0000Our young lads won't be looking to win this one but they will want to give Salford a game.'"
As long as they give their all, then the result isn't that material. Having said that, I would like to think the players wearing those shirts go out looking for the win. If it doesn't happen, then c'est la vie.
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| For me, this is a no-lose situation for us.
Most of the frst choice 17 get a rest
Kids get much needed game time
If Salford win it's expected
If Salford lose or win marginally it's a big psychological win for us
Salford players will be less rested for the semi
Provised Stef and Ashfon don't pick up injuries and the game is relatively competitive then all good.
The most interesting aspect will be how Latu, Akuoloa and BMM react as leaders. The former two really need to step up, show Cooper-esque steel and lead the kids by example.
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| I understand the reasoning behind this 21 but I'm disappointed.
I want us to win the LLS - many (arguably including SP) don't rate it.
It's one of only 3 trophies on offer.
We have the strength in depth to field a much stronger team without significantly affecting our chances in the cup.
I almost feel like it's taking the p***.
If SP wanted to field a weakened side it would have made more sense to me to name 4 additional first teamers in the 21 and not play them because it could have bluffed Salford into naming a stronger side.
Also there is the risk that some of the youngsters get 'scarred' by a mauling by Salford before their SL careers have really begun.
I appreciate that this may not be a popular view.
Everyone entitled to their own opinion but I'm not happy about this.
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| Quote ="fez1"
If SP wanted to field a weakened side it would have made more sense to me to name 4 additional first teamers in the 21 and not play them because it could have bluffed Salford into naming a stronger side.'"
How could he have named another four first team players and not played them?
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"How could he have named another four first team players and not played them?'"
My assumption is that 4 of the 21 to be dropped are fringe players like Oakley (ok maybe a big assumption) - so replace the fringe players with 4 first teamers, then drop those first teamers when the squad is cut to 17 - unless peole already know that SP is already planning to drop 4 first teamers from the 21.
I've no way of knowing.
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| Quote ="fez1"I understand the reasoning behind this 21 but I'm disappointed.
I want us to win the LLS - many (arguably including SP) don't rate it.
It's one of only 3 trophies on offer.
We have the strength in depth to field a much stronger team without significantly affecting our chances in the cup.
I almost feel like it's taking the p***.
If SP wanted to field a weakened side it would have made more sense to me to name 4 additional first teamers in the 21 and not play them because it could have bluffed Salford into naming a stronger side.
Also there is the risk that some of the youngsters get 'scarred' by a mauling by Salford before their SL careers have really begun.
I appreciate that this may not be a popular view.
Everyone entitled to their own opinion but I'm not happy about this.'"
No one cares about the league leaders shield, we've got 2 of them already, its nice but irrelevant.
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| As soon as this Fixture List was put together it was clear to see. It has been made so difficult to get to Wembley and stay at the top of Super League.
This was always going to happen. Saints will have their full team from now on. Wire/Wigan/Leeds will be looking, getting to, or recovering from Wembley.
Let's take it for what it is ... a great opportunity for our fringe players. We are looking good.
If we really, only, wanted to win the League it would have been better to get knocked out of the cup ... like Saints. Which would you prefer?
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| Quote ="fez1"I understand the reasoning behind this 21 but I'm disappointed.
I want us to win the LLS - many (arguably including SP) don't rate it.
It's one of only 3 trophies on offer.
We have the strength in depth to field a much stronger team without significantly affecting our chances in the cup.
I almost feel like it's taking the p***.
If SP wanted to field a weakened side it would have made more sense to me to name 4 additional first teamers in the 21 and not play them because it could have bluffed Salford into naming a stronger side.
Also there is the risk that some of the youngsters get 'scarred' by a mauling by Salford before their SL careers have really begun.
I appreciate that this may not be a popular view.
Everyone entitled to their own opinion but I'm not happy about this.'"
This year`s top 4 play off games will be all played in stadiums with no fans attending and maybe even played at neutral venues, for those clubs that share stadiums with football clubs.
Finishing top this year gives little advantage. Hence teams focus is qualiffying for the play offs and 4th spot is acceptable
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| Quote ="fez1"My assumption is that 4 of the 21 to be dropped are fringe players like Oakley (ok maybe a big assumption) - so replace the fringe players with 4 first teamers, then drop those first teamers when the squad is cut to 17 - unless peole already know that SP is already planning to drop 4 first teamers from the 21.
I've no way of knowing.'"
If he wasn't going to play them he wouldn't have named the fringe players in the squad. I don't think any of the senior first team players will play.
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| Quote ="fez1"I understand the reasoning behind this 21 but I'm disappointed.
I want us to win the LLS - many (arguably including SP) don't rate it.
It's one of only 3 trophies on offer.
We have the strength in depth to field a much stronger team without significantly affecting our chances in the cup.
I almost feel like it's taking the p***.
If SP wanted to field a weakened side it would have made more sense to me to name 4 additional first teamers in the 21 and not play them because it could have bluffed Salford into naming a stronger side.
Also there is the risk that some of the youngsters get 'scarred' by a mauling by Salford before their SL careers have really begun.
I appreciate that this may not be a popular view.
Everyone entitled to their own opinion but I'm not happy about this.'"
I agree that there are too many changes really and freshness is not as big a thing as momentum in sport IMO. I think we could have brought 7 or 8 in and still have a very good chance of winning.
I disagree about the lls if we win it but nothing else its hardly a consolation and if we pick up one of the others (especially the superleague trophy) I don't think anybody will care if we don't have the lss to go with it.
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| I understand all of your comments and I appreciate your points of view.
I know my view is in the minority.
Unquestionably there are some reasonable points, but like I said, I think we can win this without impacting the future games with a half decent team (rather than a full 2nd tier team - no offence intended to the fringe players) and don't want to throw it.
Anyway, we'll see.
Let's hope it's a good match and the guys stand up to be counted.
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| There isn't even home advantage in the play-offs to worry about.
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| It’s now very awkward and no-win situation. for Salford as they will be expected to win. Massive incentive for the youngsters playing for Wire.
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| Fez I'm not so sure that you are in the minority on here as I'm in the half way house camp with CW8, a bit of a rerun of the team selection perhaps with different criteria of who's in/out when we had 8-9 out but played through due to Covid
I'm still looking forward to the game and hope that it's competitive and we can get some positive from it beyond a write off result and a rest well earned though it is for many.
The question it really raises is who do we consider is still in the running for top 4 given as others have said there's no advantage being 1st or 4th
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| I reckon we will approach it like the Kangaroos used to on their tours. Have our first choice teams for the weekend games with a "mid-week" team for this Salford game, the Leeds game on the Wednesday before Wembley and Huddersfield game on a Sunday after playing Friday night and before Saints the following Friday.
That way our "weekend" team plays once a week from now to the end of the season.
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"
The question it really raises is who do we consider is still in the running for top 4 given as others have said there's no advantage being 1st or 4th'"
It's looking like 4 from Wire, Saints, Wigan, Leeds and Catalan. Saints no longer have the cup to contend with so I would expect them to make it easily. We have to play all of the other 4 contenders, so it's very much in our hands.
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| Looks like Wigan are adopting the same approach as us judging by their squad.
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| Quote ="St Helens Wolf"It's looking like 4 from Wire, Saints, Wigan, Leeds and Catalan. Saints no longer have the cup to contend with so I would expect them to make it easily. We have to play all of the other 4 contenders, so it's very much in our hands.'"
And we took two points against Catalans (who are a threat to our top 4 aspirations) with a very strong team. The Salford game isn't a four pointer (or what the equivalent phrase is now it's on percentages), hence we have the shadow squad named and we'll revert back to a very strong squad in the semi final. The strength of the squad in my opinion fits the importance of winning that particular fixture.
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