No just correcting a warrington wally who stated "saints won nothing in the first 80 years"

Saints were formed in 1873.

Until Saints started to win stuff in the 1950s the big North West rivalry was Wire and Wigan.

So what did warrington win prior to 1895 when we were all playing a different game, its a bit like bradford city fc claiming they have been champions as they were originally a rugby league club called manningham who were the first rugby league champions before switching to football , so lets just stick to rugby league honours

Saints won there first championship in 1930........18 years before warrington won there first in 1948.......if youre gonna talk crap at least have the stats to back it up, a possible reason for the wigan-wire rivalry might have been that up until the late 1930's there was 2 top flight clubs in st.helens......saints and st.helens recs who where basically the pilkington works team and became pilkington recs after folding, so it was only natural they were saints local rivals. Since recs went bust the saints-wigan rivalry really took off and warrington were dismissed by both clubs as a minor irritant which they remain to this day

So minor it brought you here. If some club beat us in the last 3 play off semis and cup final I'd consider them a pretty major irritant...as I'm pretty sure your chairman does.

That's ironic given you won your first championship in 1932.

Well if thats the case wigan must be a major irritant to you lot, warrinton are a bit like the noisy neighbours screaming look at me ive got a new skoda when saints and wigan have 6 month old ferraris parked on the drive

Weve won that many we tend to forget the years , its easier for you lot having only won 3

Challenge cup final still giving you cause for sleepless nights then, Eamonn?

...and the willy measuring (over things won DECADES ago) continues.
Who gives a stiff one over who won what, when Churchill, Wilson and Heath were Prime Ministers.
For Cliff's sake, even times under Queen Victoria's reign have been mentioned.

Back on thread, eh lads

Ah but our 10 year old Skoda has a load of silverware on its back shelf.

Wanna compare championship trophys over the last 10 years.... or any other period you care to mention, i wont go into world club championships......seeing as youve never been eligible to enter

Funny enough i think churchill was prime minister the last time you lot win the championship.......long time between drinks boys, but back on topic you hate us cause you aint us wheresas we really dont give a s**t about you lot, on a side note i see on the "warrington casuals" fb page one of the more rampant saints haters who spouts vitriolic abuse against saints has been exposed as a noncey driving instructer who likes to touch up young girls........needless to say hes been hammered by saints fans......pm me for his name

If you "really don't give a s**t" about the Wire, why have you posted so many times on this thread? (Polishes 2019 Challenge Cup & waits for witty and interesting answer)

Look, can't we just admit that a small club like wire has no history.
I mean, we are the ONLY club never to have been relegated. We have played in front of the world record crowd when we won the cup. Oh, and we also had that fella called Bevan who is the greatest tryscorer the game has ever seen,................or ever will!

Because you lot are a joke and so easy to wind up

I didnt know old bandaged knees played in the 1999 aussie grand final in front of 108,000 at the sydney olympic stadium........christ he must have been 102

We played in front of a world record crowd when we won the cup. I know you lot are high on the government statistics for incest, but surely you can understand that statement?

You said you played in front of THE world record crowd ,you should have said A world record crowd , i knew you lot were thick but you are a right whopper, funnily enough halifax can claim that as well and theyve won more championships than warrington

For someone who's trying to convince us his team is superior, he doesn't sound very secure.

To be honest, I never looked forward to playing saints, they always won routinely, it was a game I just always expected to lose. When at best we were fighting to scrape in to the last spot of the playoffs every year I always wanted us to play the saints style over Wigans set moves style rugby though. They're a great club with a few fans who are idiots, same as us. Some of the rubbish that comes from saints fans on this page is embarrassing, then again some wire fans do similar on their forum.

I'm glad we beat them in the final, really, really glad, because it puts some of that hoodoo to bed. Given the reaction from the saints club and fans it seems they got far too used to their routine wins against us and don't like the fact that we have joined the party.

Don't give a stuff weren't even born ...but I have seen little wire beat you lot twice in finals...

I started watching in 74 and Saints were not even on my radar. Wigan for me were THE enemy, then Widnes.
The ill feeling probably comes on our part from all those last minute wins. On theirs it’s probably from the recent history of us raining on their parade.
Personally I find all the name calling (on both sides) rather infantile, but that may reflect my advancing years.

Given the title of the thread it was never going to be a thought provoking discourse, but, some of the 'banter' from both sides isn't worthy of a second glance it's beyond puerile.

Saints are the team to beat this year and we have in quite a big game so that will do for starters. As far as my RL history is concerned Widnes, Wigan then Salford the latter being personal to me. Saints weren't really on my radar well not in a "dislike" sense although this latest crop of fans, players and club officials are beginning to grate.