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| Quote ="Jack Napier"Are we supposed to cheer good effort?
I'd give my all if I played for Warrington but I'd be laughably bad. Losing isn't good, however you do it.'"
Exactly fella, all this whooping and cheering we’ve negatively took the two twice and the kids have been just about been ok. Saints kids have shown how many levels above they are and that’s the sad reality they have probably more academy out here and we’re carrying players like tasi and sita
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| I think we've done well really, happy with the young lads, livett is a centre all day long and deserves a shot there next season. We have gifted two really poor tries which have killed the game but effort and commitment has been great tonight, especially with 2 subs Down after 20 mins.
Good effort lads, we have done much better than I expected.
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| No doubting the effort but at the end of the day we could be going to Wembley on the back of 6 sl defeats on the bounce.
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| Quote ="CW8"I think we've done well really, happy with the young lads, livett is a centre all day long and deserves a shot there next season. We have gifted two really poor tries which have killed the game but effort and commitment has been great tonight, especially with 2 subs Down after 20 mins.
Good effort lads, we have done much better than I expected.'"
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| If you can’t appreciate how well THAT team competed in very trying conditions (lack of replacements in particular) then I wonder what you want.
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| Well for me - ok we lost - and again gave away a few stupid pens but i actually quite enjoyed that and it WAS good to see some new faces.
Ratch was top draw, and excellent performance from Matt Davis and Lama T
Given we lost 2 players early on and then BMM later on I thought we did pretty well and played with some spirit.
We've got some good youngsters, but I have to say that Saints youngsters are really good.
It's certainly tough at the moment.
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| Quite literally men against boys. At least we was in it for much of the first half...it was always going to be a 30 to Saints.
Disappointed with Ratchford's boot. I couldn't understand why we constantly kick deep from a restart when chasing the game and in contrast Thompson kicked of either touchline with ease.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"I wonder what you want.'"
To win. Simple as. In any game, ever.
Plenty of mitigating circumstances tonight but people are acting like we played against a world class team, we didn't.
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| meh.... cant fault the effort... However, we were easily beaten by an under strength saints team, that never really had to get out of 2nd gear.
hard to take any positives from the game really.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Burrell is blowing out his booty a bit in front of the southstand'"
Tad harsh. If Price hadn’t been so obstinate and let him play a few games then perhaps his fitness might be up by now, we all know training well isn’t the same as a full pelt game. He wasn’t bad, not outstanding but he didn’t give any penalties away AFAIK and made a handful of good tackles.
FWIW Matty Smith was anonymous. See what next week brings after more time to gel.
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| I do fear Wembley will be a televised, pre watershed bumming, though. Their second string just put five tries past us and the gulf was evident no matter how valiant/depleted we were.
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| Quote ="gary numan"When is matty smith coming on?'"
True - I thought we may have seen more tactical kicks, but given that he had 1 training session erg it would have been a big ask for him to dominate.
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| Quote ="Jack Napier"To win. Simple as. In any game, ever.
Plenty of mitigating circumstances tonight but people are acting like we played against a world class team, we didn't.'"
We did though, personnel isnt the be all and end all. The way Holbrook has saints playing, moving the ball and attacking is world class. He's an incredible coach and that's why he's been poached by the NRL. The scary thing is they have more to come with Coote back in, they're the best by a long way. Doesn't mean they will win anything but hats off to them.
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| Quote ="Jack Napier"To win. Simple as. In any game, ever.
Plenty of mitigating circumstances tonight but people are acting like we played against a world class team, we didn't.'"
No they aren’t a world class team but...we had a 17 year old stand off playing with a scrum half who joined the club 2 days ago. We had a centre playing his first full game of rl. We had a 17 year old playing on the wing against the golden boot winner. If you expected anything than a trouncing then you are beyond optimistic, it wasn’t a trouncing therefore positives to be taken...especially after the effects of Saturday.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"No they aren’t a world class team but...we had a 17 year old stand off playing with a scrum half who joined the club 2 days ago. We had a centre playing his first full game of rl. We had a 17 year old playing on the wing against the golden boot winner. If you expected anything than a trouncing then you are beyond optimistic, it wasn’t a trouncing therefore positives to be taken...especially after the effects of Saturday.'"
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"No they aren’t a world class team but...we had a 17 year old stand off playing with a scrum half who joined the club 2 days ago. We had a centre playing his first full game of rl. We had a 17 year old playing on the wing against the golden boot winner. If you expected anything than a trouncing then you are beyond optimistic, it wasn’t a trouncing therefore positives to be taken...especially after the effects of Saturday.'"
And Saints had an 18 year old at fullback, who got 2 try assists, made 2 try saving tackles on forwards and got mom. I know Sky went on about Warrington had 9 our, but Saints had 6, and Thompson, LMS and Peyroux were benched after 30 minutes not to return
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| Quote ="matt_wire"Tad harsh. If Price hadn’t been so obstinate and let him play a few games then perhaps his fitness might be up by now, we all know training well isn’t the same as a full pelt game. He wasn’t bad, not outstanding but he didn’t give any penalties away AFAIK and made a handful of good tackles.
FWIW Matty Smith was anonymous. See what next week brings after more time to gel.'"
Not criticising burrell at all, it was just noticeable after 15 20 minutes he did seem to be taking in some big lungfulls, i thought he did alright, his cover tackle method is a tad unorthodox
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"No they aren’t a world class team but...we had a 17 year old stand off playing with a scrum half who joined the club 2 days ago. We had a centre playing his first full game of rl. We had a 17 year old playing on the wing against the golden boot winner. If you expected anything than a trouncing then you are beyond optimistic, it wasn’t a trouncing therefore positives to be taken...especially after the effects of Saturday.'"
Spot on. I've always supported enthusiasm and commitment and that's what we had tonight. Well done lads.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"No they aren’t a world class team but...we had a 17 year old stand off playing with a scrum half who joined the club 2 days ago. We had a centre playing his first full game of rl. We had a 17 year old playing on the wing against the golden boot winner. If you expected anything than a trouncing then you are beyond optimistic, it wasn’t a trouncing therefore positives to be taken...especially after the effects of Saturday.'"
Have to agree. We had 6 or 7 players from our first choice 17 and those that played were on a short turnaround, plus our bench was reduced to 2 before the end of the first half. For the level of effort and determination we showed I was really impressed. Dean made a shed load of errors, but at least he gave it a go and will be the better for the experience. I am not sure about Burrell, he looks as though he hasn't played much rugby, let alone rl. Will he be a decent signing ?. Thewliss was excellent, despite playing out of position. Smith looks clearly unfit and Bennie is spent sadly, not surprising at his age. Ratchford was in a league of his own.
If you look at the patchwork of a team we put together with Thewliss, Dean, Smith, Burrell and Johnson who have hardly ever played together (5 games between them), two 17 yr olds with virtually no experience at SL and the penalty of only two on the bench, I would say they really produced a gutsy performance.
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| Quick question lads, why are your fans such scum? Up to the usual again I see and bricking Saints coaches
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| Can't complain today, i didn't expect to win so instead of crying about the game just sat and enjoyed it. Dean Riley had some nice touches and at 17 for a debut.....well done kid. Matty smith wasn't amazing but wasn't crap and did more than patton does so happy after only 1 training session. Burrell for me is TOO big for centre and he got stepped a fair few times, i don't think he has the agility for centre. I still believe he's better suited in league at 2nd row, but that's just my oppinion and i'm not a coach and never seen him in training etc.
Great to see Benny back putting some big mean hits in.
Lama Tasi finally put some big hits in and some actual effort.
Thewlis great try, loads of energy and great signs for the future.
Livett yet again a Much better attacking threat and all round better option than Currie.
Johnson, apart from the tackle didn't do bad, and i know people will completely blame him for it but where were the other players either side of him......nowhere.
Great to see new players and fresh faces it made the game more enjoyable for me, and some of our first team should have been dropped awhile ago for these players. But price seems stubborn and unwilling to make changes unless forced even with underperforming players which rings alarm bells for me.
But all in all not the worst performance i've seen and with 2 players off injured and we got to blood some new players, happy days
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| Quote ="KingRoss11"Quick question lads, why are your fans such scum? Up to the usual again I see and bricking Saints coaches'"
Because they just are, same as some of your scummy fans you'll pretend dont exist
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| Quote ="KingRoss11"Quick question lads, why are your fans such scum? Up to the usual again I see and bricking Saints coaches'"
I hope you’re telling fibs but If that has happened after last week then that’s a disgrace and I hope no one was hurt.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Because they just are, same as some of your scummy fans you'll pretend dont exist
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Oh they do exist alright, but they ain’t half as bad or as consistent as your lot
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| Ok we had 2 junior players. I think we’re over reacting to the ‘youngster’ theme. Gutsy performance or not, the squad has been assembled to compete. Saints did it without Coote, Percival, Fages, Roby, Walmsley. We tried hard without a few players but didn’t get close to winning the game.
10 of the 17 players were signed by the current coach. 2 young squad members promoted by that coach. If the squad isn’t good enough to compete, clear out the dead wood and reinvest. And not on high priced, average bodies.
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